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re: Obama Posts About ACA
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:02 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:02 pm to momentoftruth87
When Joe kicked Obama’s first percentage check up to him.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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IF the ACA was a success, why do so many elected democrats and democratic voters continue to list healthcare reform as their number one policy goal?
IMO healthcare is something that will always be a work in progress. Some legislation helps slightly, some makes it worse. Healthcare is an enormous umbrella that is never going to cover everyone and will always be an issue. My 2 cents
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:05 pm to YouKnowImRight
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We had a chance to overturn it, but we blew it.
Thanks to John McCain.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Since it's inception, premiums are up aobut 200%.
That's only for those that have to pay for it in order to cover the cost of giving it away to those who pay little or nothing.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:15 pm to Auburn1968
Right. All those ads with people saying they found a great plan for $17 a month--we're paying for that shite.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:25 pm to PorkSammich
Funny how all these so-called 'ultra-conservatives' jump right in to defend or deflect Obama being attacked
Like they were ever going to vote for a republican. The instant that Rob! would have clinched the nomination, they would have been on here eviscerating his abortion stance as being unelectable
The Ronbois are clowns. Pork Sammich is exhibit A
Like they were ever going to vote for a republican. The instant that Rob! would have clinched the nomination, they would have been on here eviscerating his abortion stance as being unelectable
The Ronbois are clowns. Pork Sammich is exhibit A
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:28 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The ACA was incredibly damaging
We tried to tell you. But no. We need a CHANGE. You got it.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:29 pm to PorkSammich
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Sigh
Thanks to John MCCain and Rinos like you.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 3:33 pm to beaux duke
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It's not the only metric for sure. I can only speak for myself but my health insurance hasn't changed much at all since Obamacare. Since its inception I've had company provided healthcare for roughly 75% of that time,
So you’re a poor.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:33 pm to RobbBobb
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Funny how all these so-called 'ultra-conservatives' jump right in to defend or deflect Obama being attacked
Voicing frustration about a failure to repeal ACA is defending Obama?
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:39 pm to geauxbrown
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Just another promise not kept.
I see GOP politicians voting against their constituents' wishes and I blame those politicians. You see GOP politicians voting against their constituents' wishes and you blame Trump. Why do you blame others for actions they didn't take?
Leftists blame white people for everything. You blame Trump for everything. Intellectual peas in a pod.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 4:45 pm to LCrox
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As a small business owner, frick ObamaCare. My monthly premiums are a joke.
Curious if it’s so damn good, are the members of Congress and White House on ACA?
Right there with you LCrox. I'm not in a big group to absorb high premiums. I got slaughtered by ACA. It hurt small businesses.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 7:51 pm to BBONDS25
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So you’re a poor.
I don't think so but maybe you feel like this is some kind of insult?
I'm in sales and my insurance comes and goes with employment. Is what it is. Do you feel better now?
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:46 pm to Datbawwwww
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You do understand that bills are presented by congress, and signed into law by the POTUS. Sooo not sure your point bitch!
I understand government well unlike MAGAy.
So what’s the point of another Trump presidency?
Trump is the one who claimed over and over he’d repeal and replace.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:54 pm to LCrox
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As a small business owner, frick ObamaCare. My monthly premiums are a joke.
same here. frick Obama and john mcccain! both POS.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:15 pm to RobbBobb
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Pork Sammich is exhibit A
yup
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:18 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Right. All those ads with people saying they found a great plan for $17 a month--we're paying for that shite.
How did they get that shite? I want some.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:20 pm to TN Tygah
(sigh)
Given his mission and perspective…it IS working.
For what he wanted to accomplish, it worked beautifully.
Given his mission and perspective…it IS working.
For what he wanted to accomplish, it worked beautifully.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:17 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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We have actual data that shows Obamacare failed horribly at its main goal: reduce healthcare costs
And this is the real problem with this legislation and the general understanding of its intent. Cost savings were never the primary intended effect. The ACA was designed to do several things:
1. Accelerate consolidation of the administration of medical care into a few large organizations but reducing physician/professional reimbursement (and thus influence over the delivery of healthcare) and "relatively" increasing reimbursement to facilities. This then places control of the system into the hands of corporate bureaucrats.
2. Subjugate those large organizations to centralized federal control by then having undue influence over the reimbursement for medical services.
3. Centralized big data collection by the government through implementation of universal EMR usage.
4. All of which ultimately leads to the real objective of a de facto single payer, government controlled healthcare system. Which is what they wanted from the beginning.
And it is working amazingly well at all of these things.
Posted on 3/24/24 at 7:46 am to mstald1
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4. All of which ultimately leads to the real objective of a de facto single payer, government controlled healthcare system. Which is what they wanted from the beginning.
Are you trying to claim this is what we have or where we are heading? The lobbyists that control our government and wrote the ACA would never allow this.
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