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Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:47 pm to
To the point of the thread, I don't see how this would be legal and if it's allowed to fly, it will set a dangerous precedent for the future.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

I don't accept this minority mindset that says," I want and demand your financial help because I'm a minority, but when it comes to the other areas of my life, don't tell me what to do!"
Isn't accepting someone's money an avenue to being controlled?


While this certainly isn't the mindset of all minorities, I agree.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 4:57 pm to
Would this apply to Native Kenyans?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:00 pm to
It's a silly development, but not really "incredible" as long as we give our "feather" injuns land and casinos, no? What does Choctaw think of this.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34634 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:00 pm to
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seriously though, this is a joke, right?


Yes, this administration is a joke.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

not really "incredible" as long as we give our "feather" injuns land and casinos, no?


You serious?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

You serious?


You figure it out, Bengal.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:07 pm to
Me thinks you have little knowledge of any of the first nations groups or their feelings on the reservation system.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:08 pm to
This will show the progs true colors.

How is this not racist as shite? Can't wait to see the mental gymnastics to defend this.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

Me thinks you have little knowledge of any of the first nations groups or their feelings on the reservation system.


I'm always willing and eager to gain knowledge from Bengal. Please enlighten me. I'm 1/16th Cherokee, btw (for real, unlike most Americans). And I'm also left-handed. Think about it.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64637 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:11 pm to
They can do as NavyTigger says and relate it to Native Americans but then they would have to put Native Hawaiians on Reservations.

1/16th, that would rate no bennies as a Native American.
This post was edited on 5/28/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:15 pm to
My administration proposes that Obama resign as POTUS since he is obviously incompetent.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:16 pm to
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They can do as NavyTigger says and relate it to Native Americans but then they would have to put Native Hawaiians on Reservations.


Not a bad idea, perhaps. They are some racist little motherfrickers. To be fair, in my grand total of 7 days on Oahu, I was told "you're okay, brah. But not the Haoles." My white friends and colleagues who spent any real time there have some pretty bad memories. Apparently there used to be haole beatdown days in the public high schools (for Navy brats at least).
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

1/16th, that would rate no bennies as a Native American.


But what about leff-handed doe...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98663 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

This has to be a joke right?


Have you heard of Obama
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58604 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
As someone who is "1/16th cherokee," you were OK?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
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As someone who is "1/16th cherokee," you were OK?


I'm also kind of a negro.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58604 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
OK. I was not aware of that.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64637 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:28 pm to
But what about leff-handed doe...





I got ambidextrous... two left hands..
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 5/28/14 at 5:37 pm to
This has been tried for a long time. Evidently a court case was fought and they lost. The court case stated that they are a race, not a tribe.

Since that point, they have pushed to gain tribe status. Congress has shot that down on a regular basis. Now Obama want to use his pen. To those who thinks this is a joke, here is a letter written to Obama:

quote:

September 16, 2013
Dear President Obama:
We write as four members of the eight-member U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, and
not on behalf of the Commission as a whole. We are writing to address media reports that
you are considering implementing provisions of the Native Hawaiian Government
Reorganization Act (known as the Akaka bill) through executive action.1

The Commission held a hearing regarding the Akaka bill in 2006 and issued a report
recommending against passage.2 We are writing to reiterate the Commission’s
recommendation. We believe that provisions of the Akaka bill are both unwise and
unconstitutional. Executive action implementing provisions of the Akaka bill would be at
least as unwise and unconstitutional.
Neither Congress nor the President has to power to create an Indian tribe or any other
entity with the attributes of sovereignty. Nor do they have the power to reconstitute a
tribe or other sovereign entity that has ceased to exist as a polity in the past. Tribes are
“recognized,” not created or reconstituted. The federal government may on appropriate
occasions assist tribes in transforming their internal political structure, but they cannot
bring into existence a tribe or other sovereign entity that has never existed or has ceased
to exist as a separate polity.



LINK


It goes on to list many other races that would have a case for that. They don't mention this, but Jewish people are of tribal nature. There were 12 tribes. So, those living here? Do they get the same protection/status?

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