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re: Now that Conservatives claim that rhetoric is to blame for murders
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:17 am to Coach in Waiting
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:17 am to Coach in Waiting
quote:
The original article which was the topic of this thread did not have all of Giuliani's quote. The former Mayor said it was going too far to blame Deblasio for the murders.
LINK
You don't get it. The article I linked and quoted is pure garbage.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:40 am to deltaland
quote:how many posters here would criticize a pregnant woman for getting into a physical altercation with another person? She's in no position to put her and her unborn child at risk. Everyone would say she should just walk away from the confrontation right?
Garner died because he had health problems, not because the cop choked him to death.
Well. How is that not exactly like the Garner incident? He knew he was unhealthy. He knew he had a heart condition right? He knew he was a diabetic.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:43 am to meauxjeaux2
Idk 
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:46 am to Asgard Device
quote:
quote:
You don't get it. The article I linked and quoted is pure garbage.
You don't get it. The article I link confirmed that.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:36 am to baybeefeetz
quote:
. Describe for me the system whereby you get and PAY non-prosecutors to decide whether to prosecute cops and the try the cases. Think about it a while before you answer.
A state special prosecutor which investigated police complaints or situations like the Garner or Mike Brown case wouldn't be a horrible thing, IMO.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:37 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
how many posters here would criticize a pregnant woman for getting into a physical altercation with another person?
So if a pregnant woman slapped someone's hand down, she would be responsible if a person threw her on the ground and killed her. Super argument.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:39 am to the808bass
DAs prosecuting cops is a crystal clear conflict of interest.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:47 am to Asgard Device
"Kill the cops" is not protected speech. As well as "burn that bitch down", not protected speech.
The big difference that Libs can't seem to understand goes back to the premise, "you can't yell fire" (when there is not fire of course) in a crowded theater.
And by the way according to the false lib narrative a video caused the attack on Benghazi.
The ONLY reason you see now conservatives being falsely blamed is to shift the blame away from those responsible, duh.
The big difference that Libs can't seem to understand goes back to the premise, "you can't yell fire" (when there is not fire of course) in a crowded theater.
And by the way according to the false lib narrative a video caused the attack on Benghazi.
The ONLY reason you see now conservatives being falsely blamed is to shift the blame away from those responsible, duh.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:55 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Conservatives like O'Reilly are pretty much self restricted to ranting on their tv shows. It's a safe bet that the viewing audience is then practically 100% other conservatives. Liberals like Sharpton & MNBC talking heads are out on the streets, stirring up shite amongst the local population. When is the last time you saw O'Reilly ( and I am no big fan but he's the main target here it seems )standing on a platform out in the streets, mike in hand, spewing his conservative perspective? Media most definitely has an influence on Americans; the key is for that influence not be abused. Is it not fair to say Sharpton & his type abuse their influence?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:56 am to Keltic Tiger
quote:Glenn Beck would be a more appropriate person to use here. He's frequently out in public doing these sorts of things.
Conservatives like O'Reilly are pretty much self restricted to ranting on their tv shows. It's a safe bet that the viewing audience is then practically 100% other conservatives. Liberals like Sharpton & MNBC talking heads are out on the streets, stirring up shite amongst the local population. When is the last time you saw O'Reilly ( and I am no big fan but he's the main target here it seems )standing on a platform out in the streets, mike in hand, spewing his conservative perspective?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:09 am to tigress4life
I like how you weaved Benghazi into your rant.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:45 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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BUT I think that most rational people who know the facts can conclude that the media (and that includes social media) treatment of the Brown and Garner incidents were the impetus for Ismaaiyl Brinsley's actions.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 12:44 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
Is it not also feasible that institutional racism and rhetoric from the right could also be blamed?
No.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:17 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
Expect to see a big resurgence of articles and OP-eds in the media about how Republicans have "blood on their hands" because they implement policies that fail to lift blacks out of poverty. After all it is now fair game to blame politicians for the actions of senseless murderers.
You're right...there is no blood on the hands of conservatives.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:24 pm to Asgard Device
MY man the liberal press trys to do what your speaking of every chance they get. But you keep fighting the good fight. Personally i expect this all to continue as long as we have the great devider in the Whitehouse.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 2:50 pm to RunningWithScissors
quote:how can anyone look at that picture and conclude that a choke hold was not used?
Here is a picture of the compression in action.
He may not have intended to use a chokehold, but that is clearly a chokehold
Posted on 12/22/14 at 3:22 pm to Asgard Device
quote:
Blaming guns was dumb.
This isn't a good analogy. Guns are inanimate objects. Had the NRA been calling for people to shoot up elementary schools then certainly they would be criticized when it happened.
The guns that are sitting in my case at home aren't actively motivating people to commit violent acts.
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