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re: Not a word about Custer
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:51 pm to Zach
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:51 pm to Zach
People who call Custer a idiot have read next to nothing about him. He was not brilliant. Not humble. Not passive. Not afraid to fight. Not a battlefield tactician. Not a easy guy to like. Not afraid of fame or the camera. Not restrained in disobeying orders.
He was resented, hated, feared, loved and one of the best pure horseman America has produced. I have never in all the many pages read remember anyone refer to him as stupid.
He was resented, hated, feared, loved and one of the best pure horseman America has produced. I have never in all the many pages read remember anyone refer to him as stupid.
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:55 pm to bencoleman
The fort was built on the site where the slaughter occurred. The fort did not exist at that time.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 4:58 pm to WhiskeyPapa
At least the British knew what not to do at Roarke's Drift couple years later
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:00 pm to LSUERDOC
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The fort was built on the site where the slaughter occurred. The fort did not exist at that time
That's pretty much what I said. The militia outnumbered the Indians 2 to one and still managed to get utterly destroyed.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:02 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Custer isn't even close to being the most famous soldier. Half of the presidents, if not more, are more famous soldiers than Custer. Not to mention military only options like Lee, MacArthur, Patton, etc. Custer isn't even top ten
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 5:04 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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How could another June 25 pass without remembering America's most famous soldier?
This is America's most famous soldier. Custer was incompetent ,and led his men to a slaughter.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 6/26/17 at 6:23 pm to stelly1025
Audie Murphy is well known to you but not generally.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:17 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Audie Murphy is well known to you but not generally.
I am not going back to read all of it but if this thread about famous soldiers is 5 pages without anybody mentioning Alvin York you should be banned from Tennessee forever.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 7:25 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:17 pm to gthog61
95 people out of 100 will not know who Alvin York is.
They surveyed a number of people and most couldn't say within 50 years when the Civil War occurred.
They surveyed a number of people and most couldn't say within 50 years when the Civil War occurred.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:23 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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95 people out of 100 will not know who Alvin York is
Conscientious objector turned WW1 hero, responsible for saving many men's lives and capturing dozens of German prisoners. It's a shame history isn't important to some people.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:27 pm to stelly1025
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This is America's most famous soldier.
Most famous is debatable, but definitely the most decorated.
Posted on 6/26/17 at 11:59 pm to WhiskeyPapa
In Ken Burns Civil War series, when he mentions Custer, he says something along the lines of "at Gettysburg was a young Lieutenant named George Armstrong Custer"...and just leaves it at that.
He doesn't elaborate. Why? It's freaking Custer...the guy in movies, the last stand!
If Custer had to be explained, they would have gone on.
But in pop culture that would be like having to explain, "in the audience was a young Cassius Clay...who was a boxer and would go on to win heavyweight titles."
But Burns trusted his audience education. And this was 1990.
Not 1890.
I have no idea why a generation of students wouldn't know who Custer is beyond the assumption that the War against the Indians is taught no longer because PC.
Nobody is saying he was great but he's a household name like Wyatt Earp and Billy the Kid.
Sort of scary to me that some wouldn't recognize that name. Scary to Ken Burns too.
He doesn't elaborate. Why? It's freaking Custer...the guy in movies, the last stand!
If Custer had to be explained, they would have gone on.
But in pop culture that would be like having to explain, "in the audience was a young Cassius Clay...who was a boxer and would go on to win heavyweight titles."
But Burns trusted his audience education. And this was 1990.
Not 1890.
I have no idea why a generation of students wouldn't know who Custer is beyond the assumption that the War against the Indians is taught no longer because PC.
Nobody is saying he was great but he's a household name like Wyatt Earp and Billy the Kid.
Sort of scary to me that some wouldn't recognize that name. Scary to Ken Burns too.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 12:00 am
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:21 am to Floating Change Up
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Floating Change Up
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:43 am to gthog61
I have read a few but the the best to me was "A Terrible Glory" by James Donovan.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:56 am to WhiskeyPapa
Still Dead?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 6:56 am to weagle99
No one "ignores the killing" of natives. Or settlers.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:10 am to EKG
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America's most famous soldier
At the risk of being a contrarian, I'd go with Washington, Lee, Grant, Eisenhower, and/or Patton as being more famous soldiers than Custer.
(I'd also add Bowie, Crockett, Travis, Austin, and Houston to my list, but I'm admittedly biased)
Alvin York??????? Sgt. York A true American Badass
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:28 am to TupeloTiger
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I guess I'm the only one, but, I think Custer was stupid and arrogant to get off his horses, form a circle and fight overwhelming numbers of Indians. I would have moved position to a favorable or better one, regroup to a winnable position, and fight to win later. Maybe even rejoining the other 2 groups for a larger winning battle.
He was a fearless glory hound. Good for getting one's name in the history books, bad for longevity.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:34 am to olgoi khorkhoi
The guy who played Custer in Little Big Man was terrible casting. Most of his prior roles were as a comedian.
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