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re: North Korea prediction?? Where we headed?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:45 pm to Ingloriousbastard
Posted on 6/23/17 at 8:45 pm to Ingloriousbastard
"Taken out" are easy words written in blood ink.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:26 pm to goatmilker
Would you have rather North Korea be eliminated or Saddam's Iraq? Both were similar in strength before we invaded Iraq. One was starting to test nuclear weapons, one may have used gas on his people..we made a mistake.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:31 pm to Ingloriousbastard
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Preemptive strike wouldn't have been such a bad idea. Looking back, should we have taken out Iraq or North Korea? They were both part of the "Axis of Evil". They were infinitely weaker in the Clinton and Bush administrations, but started to poke the bear then. Now it's gotten out of hand.
Once it's on, massive amounts of artillery fire and conventional missiles will be launched at Seoul and Tokyo. Once it's over, SK and China have to deal with millions of mentally and physically stunted refugees.
That's why we don't just take the KFR out. Extreme costs to our allies in the region.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:41 pm to Memberda90s
NK will likely out kick their coverage and finally try to strike the US. It either fails or we intercept. Then we are justified in a response to everyone in the region. I'm sure there are 20 plans on what we do if that happens.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:46 pm to indianswim
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NK will likely out kick their coverage and finally try to strike the US. It either fails or we intercept. Then we are justified in a response to everyone in the region. I'm sure there are 20 plans on what we do if that happens.
Is Fatboy really that dumb? He and his father are yappy Chihuahuas. As long as they don't cross certain lines, they know they're safe because their neighbors will suffer extreme costs and will thus oppose an invasion. An attack on the US means all bets are off and Fatboy is either dead or reduced to the same standard of living as the ordinary people in his country.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:52 pm to SCLibertarian
I imagine one of the first priorities in any invasion plan (medium/long term) is to immediately bring investment to their infrastructure. Give them modern utilities and access to the world's culture, and in less than 5 years you have nil to worry about.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:53 pm to Bestbank Tiger
I'd like to hope he isn't, but he was raised almost in solitude and fed all the propaganda bullshite. He may actually think he's a living god and try something.
His grandfather and dad knew it was all bullshite. But the further you get away from the lie and keep telling it, it becomes your truth.
His grandfather and dad knew it was all bullshite. But the further you get away from the lie and keep telling it, it becomes your truth.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:59 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Now, it's more complicated, but it wasn't so much back in the 90s/early 00s. We invaded Iraq for weapons of mass destruction around the time NK's nuclear program was picking up.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:17 pm to indianswim
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I'm sure there are 20 plans on what we do if that happens.
Better damn be... and 20 backup plans for those plans. How many other nations have our plans?
Hello HRC bathroom server?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:21 pm to OnTheGeaux
Those plans were shredded, bleached, and burned during the peaceful transition of power.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:23 pm to indianswim
Amazing. How the hell does that even happen? The Democrats have sold this Nation out.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:32 pm to bencoleman
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We've got over 40,000 soldiers in harm's way so we're kinda limited with our choices. We'd almost have to go all in and first strike fat Kim to keep them from retaliating.
Hopefully Trump's boys are prepping the Chicoms on what's coming. China had ample time to handle the situation and they have failed thus far. We can't wait until the NOKO's develop a intercontinental nuclear warhead, at that point we're fricked .
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:34 pm to Memberda90s
Oddly, the real problem is North Korean conventional weapons (artillery) heavily fortified in caves and secure emplacements merely 35 miles from Seoul, South Korea. They are so numerous and so powerful and Seoul is so heavily populated and proximate that you could not stop massive urban casualties even with a preemptive strike of significant magnitude. I am sure that there are many people in the DOD "gaming" this situation who are way more informed that Tigerdroppings that are trying to figure this out and maybe know the answer. However, so far I have not seen a plausible solution.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:40 pm to beachdude
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Oddly, the real problem is North Korean conventional weapons (artillery) heavily fortified in caves and secure emplacements merely 35 miles from Seoul, South Korea. They are so numerous and so powerful and Seoul is so heavily populated and proximate that you could not stop massive urban casualties even with a preemptive strike of significant magnitude. I am sure that there are many people in the DOD "gaming" this situation who are way more informed that Tigerdroppings that are trying to figure this out and maybe know the answer. However, so far I have not seen a plausible solution.
I would hate to see the South Koreans get pummeled but NK is trying to become a global threat with the capability to deliver nukes to the US, this is not acceptable.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:40 pm to Ingloriousbastard
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We invaded Iraq for weapons of mass destruction
Lol
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:53 pm to beachdude
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I have not seen a plausible solution.
Do I remember some Top Brass stating awhile back that all options on NK end in nuclear..?
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 12:45 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:57 pm to BamaCoaster
LOL is my point exactly. If we wanted to start a war, it should've been with the greater threat to us, or life in general. We wasted resources on something that had very little payoff.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:16 am to Bass Tiger
Agreed. At some point the decision will have to be made in DC to eliminate them with consequential casualties in South Korea and Japan or wait until NK can truly threaten the west coast of the US. This situation is the fault of everyone going back to Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama who never tried to do what was necessary. The irony is that a moron could have seen this coming.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:50 am to Memberda90s
Rodman. Nobel peace prize
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:00 am to beachdude
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This situation is the fault of everyone going back to Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama who never tried to do what was necessary. The irony is that a moron could have seen this coming.
I wouldn't go back that far. Carter inherited a gutted military and the Vietnam hangover. The USSR still had NK's back for most of the Reagan administration. The Gipper was focused on ending that threat.
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