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re: New York Times posts image of Stephen Miller's head on a pike

Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:44 am to
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Is it really? Read the tweet. It specifically places the context of that photo in late night shows, which are widely understood to be comedic and to use satire and hyperbole to entertain audiences. Posting that photo in that context with a Late Show logo on the image is not what I would call "meant to draw controversy"



don't be obtuse

I immediately understood the context of the tweet, but they chose that screenshot for a reason

Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:49 am to
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don't be obtuse

I immediately understood the context of the tweet, but they chose that screenshot for a reason
It's not obtuse to expect you to recognize and understand the context of the photo. If you say you understood that the photo came from a late night comedy show and that the NY Times article was discussing late night comedy shows, then what's the controversy?
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by 20MuleTeam
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:49 am to
Good he is goebbels like and deserves it, he needs to be punched in the face
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:50 am to
No dude he does not actually deserve to be the victim of violence

Get a grip
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:51 am to
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It's not obtuse to expect you to recognize and understand the context of the photo.


what? you're being obtuse for not recognizing why they chose that specific screenshot

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If you say you understood that the photo came from a late night comedy show and that the NY Times article was discussing late night comedy shows, then what's the controversy?


do you not understand the definition of "clickbait"?

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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:54 am to
Calling a Jew goebbles. Can it get any nuttier?
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:56 am to
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Good he is LITERALLY goebbels like and deserves it, he needs to be punched in the face



Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:57 am to
I don't remember seeing Valerie Jarrett's head on a pike being tweeted by the NYT. How interesting.
Posted by TakingStock
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:02 am to
Sad!
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:14 am to
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Hog on the Hill


You really are being obtuse AF. Most everyone get what's going on here. They understand the context of show, they know NYT was showing a shot of it, etc. It's the hypocrisy and blatant shite stirring that is irritating. Zero chance this happens to Valerie Jarrett all else held equal. Why can't you understand that?
Posted by Chrome
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:14 am to
To quote from the movie "The Sting", "If you're getting them mad you know that you're getting to them."
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:15 am to
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I don't remember seeing Valerie Jarrett's head on a pike being tweeted by the NYT. How interesting.
Was her head on a pike during a comedy skit on a late night show?
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:16 am to
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what? you're being obtuse for not recognizing why they chose that specific screenshot
I know why they chose that specific screenshot, dude. Good grief

You're being obtuse for separating the screenshot from the context. You already admit you understand the context, but you're reacting to the image as if it were separated from the context. It's a fricking comedy skit. Relax

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this. In my judgment, depicting someone's head on a pike in an explicitly comedic context, where it's clear the person is being inserted into scenes from television shows, should not be controversial. You disagree. Why you disagree is lost on me, but whatever. It's subjective.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:19 am
Posted by tigercavor
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:19 am to
If they showed him hanging from a tree, wouldn't that be hilarious!

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:23 am to
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You already admit you understand the context, but you're reacting to the image as if it were separated from the context. It's a fricking comedy skit. Relax


I just called it clickbait.

I'm going to call out media that tries to present themselves as serious for blatant clickbait.

In no way am I offended.

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In my judgment, depicting someone's head on a pike in an explicitly comedic context, where it's clear the person is being inserted into scenes from television shows, should not be controversial. You disagree. Why you disagree is lost on me, but whatever. It's subjective.


Right. It shouldn't be. But it is and will be interpreted that way by the vast majority of people. And the NYT knows that. That is why they chose that specific screenshot. It's about clicks.

If they chose a more normal one, say from the Big Bang Theory, would we be discussing this right now?

You know this too, I know you do. For some reason you are just being really disingenuous about this.


This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:31 am to
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Their subscriptions are up bigly over the last couple of months


NY Times revenue is down over 50% in the past ten years, but by all means, do keep drinking their kool-aid.
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:33 am to
I'm not offended at all. I don't know if you knew this or whatever, but I actually don't like Trump and I don't like Miller at all. It's the annoying hypocrisy that bugs me. I think you're just biased.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:35 am to
I just stated a fact. I know you're averse to them at times.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:35 am to
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You really are being obtuse AF. Most everyone get what's going on here. They understand the context of show, they know NYT was showing a shot of it, etc. It's the hypocrisy and blatant shite stirring that is irritating. Zero chance this happens to Valerie Jarrett all else held equal. Why can't you understand that?

I think you're trying really hard to manufacture a controversy here. Speculating what would or wouldn't happen if Valerie Jarrett were depicted in a similar way is just dealing with fantasy.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:37 am to
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I just called it clickbait.

I'm going to call out media that tries to present themselves as serious for blatant clickbait.

In no way am I offended.
This actually isn't clickbait.

The NY Times clearly showed that the article was about how late night shows are discussing Miller. If you don't want to read an article about that, don't click the link. They didn't disguise the article as something else and bait you in by misleading you. They were actually really upfront about what the article is.

Clickbait is where you entice someone to click by being vague or misleading about the contents of the article.

If they had said, "Liberals wants Miller's head on a pike," and gave no hint that the article was actually about a comedy show, and there was no Late Show logo in the photo, then it would be clickbait.

You're tilting at windmills, Don Quixote.
This post was edited on 2/14/17 at 10:38 am
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