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re: New USDA study: Soda is the most common item bought with food stamps

Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:07 pm to
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I can tell you from face to face experience in the store I manage. The EBT-food stamp customers buy hundreds of dollars of the best roasts, ribeye steaks, sausage, chicken for frying, cookies, donuts, fresh and frozen pies and cakes[lots], bags and bags of candy, ice cream 3 or 4, potato chips[lots], and a lot of sugary drinks. Average of $600 a customer and I,the manager, has to buy specials and ad items for 50 or 60 dollars and they get $600. Obama really got this out of line.


It's not liberals to blame. Blame the agricultural lobbyists.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:08 pm to
USDA is racist.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12623 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:08 pm to
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Was she white?


No. She was black. I don't think race really matters in this regard. I've seen a lot of trashy people of both races working the system like this.

Welfare, food stamps, public housing, etc. needs to be temporary assistance. There is no incentive for these people to help themselves. Then again, any person with a little drive and ambition would want more out of life.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26749 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
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In states where they have done this it was found that the expense of administrating drug tests was more expensive than taking away payments from people who flunked.


Just because the government sucks at administering ANY program efficiently and affordably doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55446 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:09 pm to
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Good idea. Collective farms would be an awesome way to start socializing agriculture.



No. Socialized agriculture does not work. This is for the poors only.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Yeah, well, frick 'em


Good luck telling the senators from Iowa, Ohio, Kansas, Nebraska, Montana, North and South Dakota, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Virginia, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and so on that we need to ban people on food stamps from buying things made from corn, wheat, soybeans, sugar, potatoes, beef and so on. Good luck. The farm and agricultural lobbyists are very powerful.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
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As I have mentioned elsewhere, I would like to see food stamps replaced by public gardens and farms in which recipients must contribute (if physically able) labor in order to receive the food. This would be more nutritious, it would give people a sense of worthwhile labor, and it would reduce costs for taxpayers


Yep.

The initial move toward cards and the ability to buy anything were to remove the stigma. A stigma toward using public funding is a good thing IMO.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15705 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
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SNAP consumers buy more soda, less nutritious food than non snap household

This is the first study of its kind. The folks who did the study suggest legally limiting the program


I wonder what the correlation is between these households and those that require government assistance for healthcare related to diabetes and hypertension.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
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No. Socialized agriculture does not work. This is for the poors only.


But you just said it wouldn't work? So it will suddenly work for the poor but not everyone else?

Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76284 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:13 pm to
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but the whole program has been co-opted by the food lobby

Right. It's another corporate welfare program and the corporate lobbies own the politicians. As usual.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:14 pm to
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2 or 3 liters of coke for the same price of milk.


So they buy a 2 liter of coke instead of a gallon of milk. Hence the reason they're poor, they're stupid.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14827 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Part of the reason is because it's cheap. When you don't have a lot of money you end up buying cheap food. It's a vicious cycle hard to get out of. 2 or 3 liters of coke for the same price of milk.




Yeah. I drink lots of soda because it is cheap...

Oh, actually no I don't. I drink water because it isn't full of worthless calories. Not only is water calorie free, it is free.

But I guess I am crazy.

Thinking someone subs soda for milk because it is cheap is crazy.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61213 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:15 pm to
Inexpensive, pennies on the dollar water at their fingertips, but instead they travel all the way to the store to buy nasty arse chemical water.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:15 pm to
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That would be a good idea, but you know that senators from corn producing and sugar producing states would be against this.

And if you want to ban potato chips, Doritos, snack cakes you will have a whole bunch of agricultural interests opposed to it.

These would be republican politicians. Do you think the senators from Idaho want to discourage potato consumption? I'm pretty sure the senators from Georgia will look after the interests of Coca-Cola.


You're not wrong. The big supporters of food stamps are agricultural companies, food and beverage conglomerates, and retailers.

To hell with them all.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:21 pm to
100 percent agree!
Posted by Bistineaubengal
Member since Aug 2008
800 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:21 pm to
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Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5708 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:22 pm to
This is why we shouldn't give food stamps. Instead, we make available all the rice, beans, dried milk, etc. they need to survive and let them go get a job if they want nicer food. We don't have to let them starve but we sure don't need to pay for whatever they want to eat beyond the basics.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11426 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:23 pm to
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What is most commonly bought with bankruptcy savings? More casinos?


looks like it worked out...
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55446 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:24 pm to
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But you just said it wouldn't work?


Don't play dumb. You know there is a difference between community gardens for the poor (which, I must add, will not be equal in its distribution - labor and ideas contributed gain more food) and the entire socialization of the agricultural system.

There hasn't really been a case of socialized anything that can even compare to markets. But since I would be an evil, greedy fascist shitlord for letting people starve because they're too stupid to provide for themselves, I'm okay with allowing them land to work on.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26749 posts
Posted on 1/14/17 at 2:27 pm to
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What is most commonly bought with bankruptcy savings? More casinos?


This happened under Obama's watch. Quit deflecting.
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