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re: New Orleans area dominates list of best public high schools in Louisiana
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:27 am to Tigerdev
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:27 am to Tigerdev
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I think you are overestimating the admissions standards with you .5 percent example. And I went to the school...my wife teaches in Charter. My father teaches in Charter. Two of my Aunts... So don't talk down to me on this. Seems like you all are grasping at anything to downplay the result. I am going to link this thread every time one of you idiots plays the NOLA education or demographics card.
I somewhat agree with you but the reason alot of public schools in LA have bad scores is because of the kids they are forced to take. When a school has 25-50 self contained special education kids they are giving you 25-50 zeros on the scoring system. With selective admission you are starting with a major advantage.
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:31 am to Zach
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Lastly, the state of La. does not have schools from elite ISDs like many other states have. The elite ISD school is not private, not magnet and not charter. It's a regular public HS in a district where only extremely rich people can afford to live. The property taxes on these mansions give the district more money than they know what to do with and since IQ is inherited the kids are very smart.
question... what's the difference between an ISD and a district with one high school?
because i would say Chalmette looks like one of those ISD type schools if you ride past it. Same with Hahnville and Destrehan, but yet St. Bernard and St. Charles respectively have the governing structure of standard districts
on the other hand, you go to Texas, they have crappy ISDs too... they can't all be Allen High School
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:33 am to redfishfan
quote:I agree that we have a problem in some schools but this thread is a counter to the idea New Orleans is inferior to the rest of the state or that demographics are somehow the driving factor. If you have been reading this board for the last week you know why I posted this thread :)
I somewhat agree with you but the reason alot of public schools in LA have bad scores is because of the kids they are forced to take
And of course..selective admissions schools will generally out perform open enrollment at every level. This is common sense...The good thing about Magnet schools though has always been that there options at every reasonable level of child. Moderate performers, high performers, and outstanding performers all had a Magnet school option in New Orleans long before Charter.
Charter if anything is bringing high paying jobs to the city which is why I support it. That and a chunk of our household income comes from one of the Charters.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:34 am to Strannix
quote:You wouldn't have been accepted into the school I went to on this list.
look so dumb
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:36 am to MadtownTiger
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If you put all those BF kids in a garbage NOLA school, the teachers and administration would hold them back or only allow them to progress minimally.
that garbage NOLA school's scores would increase though
a lot of the reason Louisiana public schools comparatively suck are because the best students have left the system. we need to somehow bring them back.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:38 am to Tigerdev
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I agree that we have a problem in some schools but this thread is a counter to the idea New Orleans is inferior to the rest of the state or that demographics are somehow the driving factor.
I could get on a soapbox on this topic but will spare everyone.
I worked in this area for a very long time and NOLA was my geographic area to work with. I went to EVERY public school in that area and am very familiar with all the schools listed.
Here is what has helped NOLA in this area, especially with "Demographics": KATRINA.
Katrina drove out a LOT of demos that were holding the scores down and several of these terrible public schools have not reopened since.
There are a number of big factors that play into this. Your OP isn't going to work out the way you think it will.
And congrats on going to a great school growing up. I am very aware of what BFHS brought to the table PRIOR to the current situation. I'm just shocked someone as oppressed as you are was able to do this...
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:38 am to Tigerdev
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Most of these schools pay teachers 100K so they get a LOT of applicants for each position. Not in New Orleans.
You didn't read my post carefully. The 100K comment was about elite ISD schools. I said clearly that there are NO elite ISD schools in La.
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In New Orleans, a lot of the teachers are the folks we discuss that have liberal arts degrees that can't find any jobs in the area. They sign up for an education program and get an interim license.
It is possible to get a license to teach during the 4 years of getting your liberal arts degree. You just have to carry more hours and make sure you have enough courses in your subject area of certification. It's easier for elementary teachers since they don't specialize in a subject like HS teachers.
I had a college buddy who got his liberal arts degree with a double major in Math and French with a 4.0 average. His original plan was to get into Harvard law. His senior year he changed his mind and plotted a path toward a Ph.D. in philosophy because 'I thought about it and I really don't like lawyers.'
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:42 am to Tigerdev
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I agree that we have a problem in some schools but this thread is a counter to the idea New Orleans is inferior to the rest of the state or that demographics are somehow the driving factor. If you have been reading this board for the last week you know why I posted this thread :)
The problem I think is that places are judged by their worst and not their best. Yes, New Orleans most likely has some of the worst students in the state. I would be willing to bet they have some of the best too. It's just part of being a big city.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:42 am to Tigerdev
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Because its a butt-hurt dismissive response to a thread that is clearly a counter to the anti-New Orleans rhetoric that has graced this board for the last week.
You do know that on SEVERAL occasions the NO school board tried to either shut down or turn Ben Franklin into an open admission school.
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New Orleans public school students are capable of crushing much of the state in performance.
Yeah, but it's the New Orleans public leaders who are the ones crushing the public school students. That's why choice is so important.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:44 am to chalmetteowl
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question... what's the difference between an ISD and a district with one high school?
An ISD is called 'independent' because it is totally unconnected to the large city it's next to. It can have more than one HS. Glenbrook N and S are two large HSs in the district of Glenview/Northbook next to Chicago.
There are ISDs in La. But they are not elite, meaning you don't have to be a rich person to live there. So Chalmette is not going to have enough millionaires to build an amazing HS.
Texas does indeed have crappy ISDs. All states do.
Another interesting issue is Lab Schools. Marquette Univ in Wisconsin has an elite Lab School. Harvard, OTOH, has a crappy Lab School. It's because they want to develop teaching strategies for disadvantages students. The last time I visited Harvard's lab school the destination listed most often by graduating seniors was 'Cosmetology School.'
I'm not familiar with LSU's lab school.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:46 am to Tigerdev
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Tigerdev
Somebody please throw this dude a compliment, so he'll stop posting his fricking resume on here all the time.
Help him with that chip on his shoulder.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:48 am to BigJim
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You do know that on SEVERAL occasions the NO school board tried to either shut down or turn Ben Franklin into an open admission school
Did they ever. Always have to try and frick up a good thing. Resistance came from a lot of areas outside of NOLA too.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:49 am to Tigerdev
quote:That explains a lot about your posts....
I went to the top school on this list.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:01 am to Zach
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There are ISDs in La. But they are not elite, meaning you don't have to be a rich person to live there.
not even Central or Zachary?
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:03 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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I'm just shocked someone as oppressed as you are was able to do this..
Best post of the day already.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:27 am to chalmetteowl
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not even Central or Zachary?
If Central and Zachary don't produce 10 National Merit Scholars per senior class they are not even in the discussion.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:31 am to navy
Riiight. Because I am supposed to let people insult me without dropping the inconvenient truth on em.
frick yourself guy 
frick yourself guy
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:34 am to redfishfan
quote:I totally agree. I have no illusions about the problems facing this city. I just find it amusing that Louisiana people on this board seem utterly delusional about the status of New Orleans relative to the rest of the state.
The problem I think is that places are judged by their worst and not their best. Yes, New Orleans most likely has some of the worst students in the state. I would be willing to bet they have some of the best too. It's just part of being a big city.
The fact of the matter is this state is just another fly-over pit of irrelevancy if not for this beautiful city. A city celebrated the world over...And a city that seems to be closing the gap on addressing many of its faults.
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:36 am to Tigerdev
BRMHS 4lyfe.
Everything else in La can go to pot.
Everything else in La can go to pot.
Posted on 4/27/17 at 10:40 am to Gaspergou202
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Cash should follow the child.
Parents and guardians should select from any school that will accept their child, and public education money should be paid directly to the institution. Think GI bill for kids.
More like Tops.
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