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re: Myth Debunked - Conservatives give more to charity than liberals

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Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Hypocrisy is not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by dante
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Yes.....and then adjusted for income
Seems like a legit study to me, after all they did go to M.I.T and majored in political science.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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Link?



From YOUR post on the previous page

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religious 'charities', meaning that money that goes to brainwashing young children to believe a particular religion, or buying gold to decorate a Catholic Church with or to buy a Priest's or preacher's Cadillac
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:44 pm to
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SpidermanTUba donates to the Ronald McDonald house


Those people are doing Yeomans duty. My daughter was born with some minor complications that required us to stay in Nuremberg for a week on 2 separate occasions and in Atlanta 2 times. I have never been treated with more kindness than the people at the RM House treated us. When I was a young man I volunteered to work at the house in Atlanta (doing electrical work) and was impressed with the operation even at 19...so much so that I almost always chunk my change in the box at Mickey D's (although with debit cards that doesn't happen so often anymore). After receiving assistance from Ronald McDonald charities I appreciate them even more....my wife and I go to the one in Nuremberg twice a year and cook breakfast for everyone staying there....it is just about the most rewarding experience I have had with my clothes on. We have helped with dinner at the one in Atlanta a couple of times also....just a great experience all the way around. If you haven't had a chance to do so and have an afternoon or morning free give it a try....I will bet even the hardest among you will become addicted to helping these families in need...and not through any wrong doing on their part for the most part.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Conservatives tend to give more to religious 'charities', meaning that money that goes to brainwashing young children to believe a particular religion, or buying gold to decorate a Catholic Church with or to buy a Priest's or preacher's Cadillac - counts the same as money that goes to feed poor people or fund cancer research. And you can bet the house that the Brook's study doesn't count donations to buy birth control for poor women as charity - but a tithe to a church that wind's up paying for the minister's wife's boob job does!

LINK
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Or maybe it's because they spend too much on outside consultants.



Because private companies never hire private consultants to help them trim waste, right?



Posted by dewster
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:45 pm to
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Link?


Doesn't have to. Here's your quote:

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Conservatives tend to give more to religious 'charities', meaning that money that goes to brainwashing young children to believe a particular religion, or buying gold to decorate a Catholic Church with or to buy a Priest's or preacher's Cadillac - counts the same as money that goes to feed poor people or fund cancer research.


Again, you probably don't want to bring up overhead and marketing into a debate about charitable giving.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:46 pm to
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quote:
Link?



From YOUR post on the previous page

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religious 'charities', meaning that money that goes to brainwashing young children to believe a particular religion, or buying gold to decorate a Catholic Church with or to buy a Priest's or preacher's Cadillac





he's such a doofus
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Because private companies never hire private consultants to help them trim waste, right?

Hey, it was just a suggestion on why they might be strapped for resources, just like yours. At least mine was plausible.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Conservatives tend to give more to religious 'charities', meaning that money that goes to brainwashing young children to believe a particular religion, or buying gold to decorate a Catholic Church with or to buy a Priest's or preacher's Cadillac - counts the same as money that goes to feed poor people or fund cancer research. And you can bet the house that the Brook's study doesn't count donations to buy birth control for poor women as charity - but a tithe to a church that wind's up paying for the minister's wife's boob job does!


Sorry. Where do I use the word "ALL" ?

I'm having trouble finding it.


I am fairly certain that preachers need to eat,though, so if you tithe to a Church part of what you're paying for is someone to teach you how to keep from going to Hell - that's paying for a personal service - not donating to charity.

Speaking of Hell - that's the entire reason conservative religionists donate to begin with. If they don't, they burn in Hell. Paying to stay out of Hell is a selfless act? Or do they not actually believe they'll go to Hell?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:47 pm to
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he's such a doofus




I'm beginning to think he is a conservative and just intentionally making liberals look bad
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:47 pm to
While this old chestnut has obviously been flawed since the first time it appeared, probably a hundred years ago, I have always wondered why it was so important to conservatives, especially middle class conservatives. You should give to charity because you want to help....and can. If you have the means it is much easier to give. If you don't have the means you can have all the desire in the world and it wouldn't do you any good....
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36415 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:48 pm to
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Sorry. Where do I use the word "ALL" ?

I'm having trouble finding it.



it was there, in between the lines for all of us to read
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:48 pm to
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SpidermanTUba


Tuba=liberal=agenda=bad data in = bad data out = polical board entertainment
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:49 pm to
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Those people are doing Yeomans duty. My daughter was born with some minor complications that required us to stay in Nuremberg for a week on 2 separate occasions and in Atlanta 2 times. I have never been treated with more kindness than the people at the RM House treated us. When I was a young man I volunteered to work at the house in Atlanta (doing electrical work) and was impressed with the operation even at 19...so much so that I almost always chunk my change in the box at Mickey D's (although with debit cards that doesn't happen so often anymore). After receiving assistance from Ronald McDonald charities I appreciate them even more....my wife and I go to the one in Nuremberg twice a year and cook breakfast for everyone staying there....it is just about the most rewarding experience I have had with my clothes on. We have helped with dinner at the one in Atlanta a couple of times also....just a great experience all the way around. If you haven't had a chance to do so and have an afternoon or morning free give it a try....I will bet even the hardest among you will become addicted to helping these families in need...and not through any wrong doing on their part for the most part.




I was making a joke, but in all seriousness, I absolutely donate to and appreciate the Ronald McDonald house charity.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:49 pm to
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I have always wondered why it was so important to conservatives, especially middle class conservatives.


They have low self-esteem and need to feel better about themselves.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Sorry. Where do I use the word "ALL" ?


And, where did the other poster say ALL other charities have awful overheads?

Yet, you felt the need to suggest it was a 'bullshite stereotype'



Lunacy is not just a mountain in Peru
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:50 pm to
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I'm beginning to think he is a conservative and just intentionally making liberals look bad
If he is........he's the best there ever was!!!!
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:51 pm to
I don't see why it matters either way. Obviously there's different types of charities and cultural influences at play.

It's impossible to accurately get such data without relying on the honor system.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 4:52 pm to
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I have always wondered why it was so important to conservatives,


A supposed LIBERAL started this thread


And, IF it is fact (and, I have no knowledge of it either way)...but, IF it is FACT...you wonder why conservatives find facts important?


I'm a pro choice atheist...but, I do not wonder why devout Christians oppose abortion. It is their belief.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 4:53 pm
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