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re: MSNBC Digs Up Dirt On Hillary
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:48 pm to wfeliciana
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:48 pm to wfeliciana
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And that empty suit beat 2 republicans.
An honest re-telling of 2008 would be that (then) Senator Obama beat President Bush handily. The two Republicans were simply the sacrificial lambs that are recorded in history.
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:It isn't the votes that will be swayed from Democrat to Republican. It is the primary that it could hurt her in.
This audio tape from 40 years ago isn't going to sway many votes. At this point, most people have their opinion already established of Hillary Clinton. So again, meaningless. The emotion being fueled up is by those who already have their minds made up on her.
She has a lot of baggage, her largest being, IMO, her age and health history, followed by her time as a senator/secretary of state/etc.
She was beaten by an unknown in 2008. It could happen again.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:49 pm to Wolfhound45
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In the article from the Huffington Post, it indicates that this came up during the 2008 election cycle as well. Wonder who dug that up during the Democratic primaries?
Today is the first I've heard of this and I followed the 2008 primaries VERY closely. Also, it's pretty obvious from the OP video that Chris Matthews had never heard the story before, and no one follows Democratic politics closer than he does.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:50 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:I think you're dead wrong on that. Did you hear the tape? She laughs all the way through. This will enrage any voter with a conscience.
This audio tape from 40 years ago isn't going to sway many votes. At this point, most people have their opinion already established of Hillary Clinton. So again, meaningless. The emotion being fueled up is by those who already have their minds made up on her.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:52 pm to Scruffy
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It isn't the votes that will be swayed from Democrat to Republican. It is the primary that it could hurt her in. She has a lot of baggage, her largest being, IMO, her age and health history, followed by her time as a senator/secretary of state/etc. She was beaten by an unknown in 2008. It could happen again.
I'm sorry but if Hillary wants the spot, there's no way any other Democrat is taking it from her.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:54 pm to trackfan
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Today is the first I've heard of this and I followed the 2008 primaries VERY closely. Also, it's pretty obvious from the OP video that Chris Matthews had never heard the story before, and no one follows Democratic politics closer than he does.
I will bow to your understanding of their primaries.
This is a non issue to me because I would never vote for her and see her as a fake from start to finish.
Will admit though, if someone decides to throw their hat in the ring against her I anticipate seeing a commercial that incorporates her laugh into it many, many times.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:54 pm to L.A.
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I think you're dead wrong on that. Did you hear the tape? She laughs all the way through. This will enrage any voter with a conscience.
Tapes that were recorded at least 8 years after the case was tried. This will enrage any voter who already dislikes Hillary Clinton. The segment of the population who, after 25 years, is still undecided on their opinion of her is likely extremely small.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:55 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I'm sorry but if Hillary wants the spot, there's no way any other Democrat is taking it from her.
Which was said before they gave her spot to Obama last time.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:57 pm to Revelator
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Which was said before they gave her spot to Obama last time.
She was the front runner but nothing like this. Once campaigning starts, she would have been the front runner for what, 4 years?
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:58 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Good God, man. Are you fricking telling me you think its ok to laugh about a case involving a 12 year old girl who was raped and beaten into a coma by a 41 year old man as long as you wait 8 years after the fact?
Tapes that were recorded at least 8 years after the case was tried.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:58 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Wasn't that said in 2008 also?
I'm sorry but if Hillary wants the spot, there's no way any other Democrat is taking it from her.
Don't count your chickens before they hatch. She has more baggage this time than she did last time.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:59 pm to L.A.
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Good God, man. Are you fricking telling me you think its ok to laugh about a 12 year old victim who was raped and beaten by a 41 year old man as long as you wait 8 years after the fact?
Hillary's war on women.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 11:59 pm to L.A.
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Good God, man. Are you fricking telling me you think its ok to laugh about a 12 year old victim who was raped and beaten by a 41 year old man as long as you wait 8 years after the fact?
Not saying that at all. Only saying this story doesn't have as much weight as some think it does.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:01 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:And how the frick do you know that?
Not saying that at all. Only saying this story doesn't have as much weight as some think it does.
Jesus H. Christ, the attitude some of you have about rape is absolutely pre-historic.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:03 am to Scruffy
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She was beaten by an unknown in 2008. It could happen again.
The only Dems I see that could potentially get in her way are Elizabeth Warren and the Castro twins.
I don't think she will take things for granted like she did in 08.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:03 am to L.A.
If she was directly asked about the victim and laughed about her, then I'd have more of a problem with it.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:04 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:You intrigue me Mickey. You almost always start with the qualifier that you "are a republican", and then go on to either bash what a republican does or defend democrats. In every post. Every time.
Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:05 am to Wolfhound45
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An honest re-telling of 2008 would be that (then) Senator Obama beat President Bush handily. The two Republicans were simply the sacrificial lambs that are recorded in history.
Your right about the 2008 election. I think any decent D would have won that one. McCain was the sacrificial lamb. Not so sure about the second election though.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:08 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You intrigue me Mickey. You almost always start with the qualifier that you "are a republican", and then go on to either bash what a republican does or defend democrats. In every post. Every time.
Well that's mostly because I haven't been a big fan of most of the GOP leadership the past few years. I did like Romney and still do. I'm also more socially liberal than most Republicans. I don't vote based on social issues however so that's why I still support the Republican Party.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:08 am
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:10 am to Dr RC
[quote]The only Dems I see that could potentially get in her way are Elizabeth Warren and the Castro twins.
Warren will be pushed by the left wing of the Ds, but the party knows she can't win a national election. And she will not run against HRC. As for the Castro twins--I would not be surprised to see one of them as her VP. This is all if she runs.
Warren will be pushed by the left wing of the Ds, but the party knows she can't win a national election. And she will not run against HRC. As for the Castro twins--I would not be surprised to see one of them as her VP. This is all if she runs.
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