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re: Mother of Charlottesville victim changes her mind on Trump after "watching news coverage"

Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:19 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16927 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:19 am to
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Of the President's later words that said there were some "good guys" among the Nazis that killed her child.



You are using the exact same tactics the media uses. False narratives.

He didn't say any of the neo-Nazis or Klansmen were "good guys." And her daughter was killed by one neo-Nazi, not every person who showed up to that rally. I understand that your ilk is not constrained by the inconveniences of intellectual honesty though.
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Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:19 am to
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Of the President's later words that said there were some "good guys" among the Nazis that killed her child.


Not everyone who was protesting to keep the confederate statue was a neo-Nazi or white supremacist.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:21 am to
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I don't blame this woman one bit. She's lost a daughter and the fricking president is equating her dead daughter with the white supremacist nazis who killed her. He's trying to play politics and tiptoe the line between her daughter's "side" and the murderers' "side" because he doesn't want his nazi white supremacist base to turn against him. She has every right to be pissed off at him. Hell, we all do.


I don't blame her either. I do blame people like you for spewing this bullshite. Your false narrative is meant to drum up irrational, super emotional reactions and hate because it benefits your political agenda. You are taking advantage of this family's emotional state, and it's wrong.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:21 am to
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He was a little over the top in touting the mom's "kind words" for him as well.



Did @real actually praise the mom for (initially) praising himself? Sounds like him, but is there a tweet or footage of this?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:21 am to
Look.

I'm not going to speak ill of the dead.

But, her daughter aligned with ANTIFA.

The apple likely didn't fall that far from the tree.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41790 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:22 am to
There needs to be some accountability for the lying MSM.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:30 am to
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Did @real actually praise the mom for (initially) praising himself? Sounds like him, but is there a tweet or footage of this?
Yes. It was in the Tuesday press briefing in his hotel lobby. I'll look for it.

ETA:
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So making the statement when I made it was excellent. In fact, the young woman, who I hear was a fantastic young woman, and it was on NBC -- her mother wrote me and said through, I guess, Twitter, social media, the nicest things. And I very much appreciated that. I hear she was a fine -- really, actually, an incredible young woman. But her mother, on Twitter, thanked me for what I said.


quote:

I thought that the statement put out -- the mother’s statement I thought was a beautiful statement. I will tell you, it was something that I really appreciated. I thought it was terrific. And, really, under the kind of stress that she’s under and the heartache that she’s under, I thought putting out that statement, to me, was really something. I won’t forget it.
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Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21943 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:33 am to
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False narratives.


The President equated her daughter with Nazis. Full stop.

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He didn't say any of the neo-Nazis or Klansmen were "good guys."


He did say exactly that, weirdly enough.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21943 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:34 am to
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Not everyone who was protesting to keep the confederate statue was a neo-Nazi or white supremacist.


Everyone who showed up to protest to keep the statue and decided that being on the same side as Nazis was okay decided that they weren't a 'good guy'.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:34 am to
When did he say that? Give actual evidence please
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:35 am to
You're being brainwashed. Come back to reality and think freely without spewing the news narrative. Sad you can't think for yourself.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:35 am to
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Everyone who showed up to protest to keep the statue and decided that being on the same side as Nazis was okay decided that they weren't a 'good guy'.


Then the same applies in regards to ANTIFA.

Everyone who showed up to demand removal of the statues and decided that being on the same side with ANTIFA was OK decided they weren't good guys".

There.

Done.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11041 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:38 am to
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The media didn't put those words in his mouth. He said them, and now he owns them. I don't blame this woman one bit. She's lost a daughter and the fricking president is equating her dead daughter with the white supremacist nazis who killed her. He's trying to play politics and tiptoe the line between her daughter's "side" and the murderers' "side" because he doesn't want his nazi white supremacist base to turn against him. She has every right to be pissed off at him. Hell, we all do.


^^^^^^ This, a million times over. Open your eyes people, he made this about politics and your a fool if you think otherwise ^^^^^
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:40 am to
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He's trying to play politics and tiptoe the line between her daughter's "side" and the murderers' "side" because he doesn't want his nazi white supremacist base to turn against him.

Liberals don't want to say anything bad about ANTIFA because they don't want their ideological fascist base to desert them.

See how this works.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8636 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:40 am to
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^^^^^^ This, a million times over. Open your eyes people, he made this about politics and your a fool if you think otherwise


Nope. Just because you said it doesn't make it so.GFY
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:41 am to
Open our eyes to what? You want us to believe the media's narrative that those protesters are "Trumps base?" CNN called the terrorist attack a "copycat" of Charlottesville. Don't tell me who's being political. You're brainwashed bro
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79361 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:42 am to
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The poor woman lost her daughter and the whole world watched it happen. I wouldn't use her to prove a political point.


How did he politicize it? He called to say that he was sorry for her loss, she opted not to call him back. In retrospect, he's probably wondering if he should've even tried in the first place knowing this was a possibility.

He should just drop it IMO. He tried and she was swayed in her beliefs.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16927 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:43 am to
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The President equated her daughter with Nazis. Full stop.



No he didn't. And he certainly didn't compare her with the guy who drove his car into her.

He did, however, point out that the hatred and violence needs to stop on ALL sides. Of course, that is anathema to the left who refuse to acknowledge the violent authoritarians on their side of the spectrum. It's too politically advantageous to suggest that is primarily the right who promote political violence and authoritarianism. Again, they have no interest in being honest or fair, thus honest and fair conversations get torpedoed by false premises and hyperbolic rhetoric, as is evidenced here.

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He did say exactly that, weirdly enough.


No, actually he didn't. Amazing that you are either that obtuse or that dishonest to continue framing it that way. Exactly the way left leaning talking heads frame it. Fancy that.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48527 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:44 am to
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Her kid is dead. She's emotional.


That's a kind assessment. She is certainly emotional.

However, when we see this person and that reporter who tweeted backtracking from any language questioning the actions of the Leftist action group ANTIFA, I think we are seeing the mechanics of how a totalitarian state operates. The Left got to these two people and straightened them out. That's what's going on here, and this sort of thing is here to stay. It will get worse.

The USA is in for a difficult next 100 years. After that, it will get worse.

Enjoy the War! The Peace will be terrible!

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63226 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:45 am to
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BamaAtl


You usually have plenty real things to rage about. It's odd you have to lie in this case to drum up that rage.

It's almost like you know if you based that desperately needed rage on the truth, it would only be directed at the POS that killed Heather, but since you really want to direct rage at Trump, you have to make shite up to get there.
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