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re: More and more doctors opting out of Obamacare

Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:39 pm to
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What I am saying is that from the study in the OP more than 40% of the doctors specified that one of the reasons they were not participating in one of the plans is that no one contacted them to participate.
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A survey by The Medical Society of the State of New York found that 40 percent of more than 400 physicians who had responded so far said they chose not to participate in a health insurer’s exchange plan, and one-third said they did not know whether they were participating or not.

Two-thirds indicated they had received no information about reimbursements; of those who did ge that information, “a significant majority indicated that the reimbursement generally was well below what the insurer pays in other contracts,” according to a statement from the society’s president Dr. Sam Unterricht.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:49 pm to
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Finland

I wish the USA was like this./


Yeah, I wish the U.S. was like Finland too.



Universal Healthcare will dramatically accelerate the bankruptcy of the U.S. while simultaneously plummet the effectiveness of our healthcare system.

Sounds awesome.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:52 pm to
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A survey by The Medical Society of the State of New York
Yet a different study that you are bringing into the mix... without a link?

The one in the OP is from the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA).
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:52 pm to
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I didn't know you could "opt out" of the ACA regulations


Yes, as long as you don't receive federal funding (i.e. medicare and medicaid patients.)

Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:56 pm to

So most doctors I would go to aren't stupid.


Then there are the ones I wouldn't set foot near like like Howlin Howie and josslin Joscelyn Eldars.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:03 pm to
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BCBSTX basically blackmailed us into taking their exchange plans. Said it was "all or nothing". They were the only payer that did that.
Not yet. But the conversation has occurred.

Initially, BCBS exchange plans here tried to automatically include any group participating in its other plans. As in your case, BCBS also intimated participation would be an all-or-nothing pretext. They were initially evasive regarding their exchange-plan reimbursement schedule. However once plans for Medicaid-level reimbursement were ferreted out, the largest MD network in the region refused to join. Many others followed suit.

BCBS quickly backed down from any plan to exclude them from its other plans.

There is a caveat though. Insurance Regulations here hold that if, due to lack of available covered services, a patient has no reasonable option but to pursue out-of-network care, then insurance companies must reimburse those out-of-network providers/facilities at 100% of their unadjusted rate.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:04 pm to
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On topic, but side conversation:

BCBSTX basically blackmailed us into taking their exchange plans. Said it was "all or nothing". They were the only payer that did that.

You see anything similar?
From the look of this chart linked in the OP here ... LINK ... it appears that there is a large demand of the ACA plans in Texas, so that might have something to do with it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123896 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Yet a different study that you are bringing into the mix... without a link?

The one in the OP is from the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA).
The quote was from a citation in your MGMA survey.

[iii] Roni Caryn Rabin, Doctors Complain They Will Be Paid Less BY Exchange Plans, Kaiser Health News (Nov. 19, 2013); available at https://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/stories/2013/november/19/doctor-rates-marketplace-insurance-plans.aspx.

Sorry.
Assumed you'd read it.
It's been linked here before.

Here you geaux.
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Doctors Complain They Will Be Paid Less By Exchange Plans
By Roni Caryn Rabin
November 19, 2013


Many doctors are disturbed they will be paid less — often a lot less — to care for the millions of patients projected to buy coverage through the health law’s new insurance marketplaces.

Some have complained to medical associations, including those in New York, California, Connecticut, Texas and Georgia, saying the discounted rates could lead to a two-tiered system in which fewer doctors participate, potentially making it harder for consumers to get the care they need.

Doctors Complain They Will Be Paid Less By Exchange Plans
“As it is, there is a shortage of primary care physicians in the country, and they don’t have enough time to see all the patients who are calling them,” said Peter Cunningham, a senior fellow at the nonpartisan Center for Studying Health System Change in Washington D.C.

If providers are paid less, “are [enrollees] going to have difficulty getting physicians to accept them as patients?”

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A survey by The Medical Society of the State of New York found that 40 percent of more than 400 physicians who had responded so far said they chose not to participate in a health insurer’s exchange plan, and one-third said they did not know whether they were participating or not.

Two-thirds indicated they had received no information about reimbursements; of those who did ge that information, “a significant majority indicated that the reimbursement generally was well below what the insurer pays in other contracts,” according to a statement from the society’s president Dr. Sam Unterricht.

LINK
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35393 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:44 pm to
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The quote was from a citation in your MGMA survey.
No it isn't. The citation is from a position paper by the American Action Forum.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Over 214,000 doctors won't participate in the new plans under the Affordable Care Act (ACA,)
So... Let's recall one of the key premises of Obamacare--access to preventative care.

Doctors opting out means that PTs will be seeing lower quality docs who will be less apt to find and correctly diagnose early stage diseases. FAIL.

It also means that PTs will face longer wait times and service overcrowding. Both have already been cited by ACA proponents as reasons many do not seek care until it becomes urgent, or they seek routine care from ERs instead of cheaper settings. FAIL número dos.

I fully expect the next step will be forcing docs to take Obamascare plans as a condition of license. And the results will not be as expected.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:09 pm to
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I wish the USA was like this./
Why? If it's so good, stay there.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:13 pm to
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But then again, I give a shite about my countrymen.
How many people do you buy healthcare for?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:18 pm to
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How do you guys see this working out?
Just like the school system in GNO. There will be the "public" medical system you are taxed for, but avoid like the plague. Meanwhile, you also pay for private school/medicine out of pocket. Essentially you just pay twice. With half of it being wasted--not only for you--but wasted for others as well.
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