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re: Michael Brown: Officer involved sustained facial injuries.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:30 pm to the808bass
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:30 pm to the808bass
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What did you expect from Junior Bosley? Lol. Yeah, that seems obvious, too. These police departments need a whole new paradigm in how to control information. This Chinese water torture method in the age of social media is a loser. They should have had a statement out on this within 4-6 hours. That's plenty of time to take it and even vet it a bit. They let the narrative stew on social media for almost 24 hours and it blew up on them. Now they're trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.
Absolutely true. Just tell the frickin' truth. Any delay when it all came down in full view...speaks of manipulation. They'll pay for that.
I had heard on Hannity that the fatal shot was fired from WITHIN the car. Close range, shouldn't be hard to verify.
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Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:31 pm to 4LSU2
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I don't give a shite what did or did not happen in this case. There is no excuse for Americans to riot, steal, and tear up stuff that does not belong to them.
property > life
Got it.
We saw the same theme for Katrina.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:32 pm to idlewatcher
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Unless of course he was in fact reaching for the officer's firearm.
we'll see...I doubt it. The dead kid could be smart, I don't know. The po po s actively seek the stupid.
So right now, my hunch is that the cop is a murdering murderer...as punishment, he must reenact certain scenes from die hard with a vengeance in the blackest part of town
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:33 pm to DelU249
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So right now, my hunch is that the cop is a murdering murderer...
I agree.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:34 pm to RCDfan1950
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I had heard on Hannity that the fatal shot was fired from WITHIN the car. Close range, shouldn't be hard to verify.
The witness says the first shot came from inside the car. The cop got out of the car. Brown and his buddy ran. The cop shot Brown a second time in the back. Brown turned with his hands in the air and told the cop he did not have a gun. The cop then shot Brown five more times.
If that story is true, the cop should be facing serious jail time.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:36 pm to SpidermanTUba
then I was way off
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:37 pm to Al Dante
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Grow up. I'd rather accurate information a few days later than a twitter circus of unsourced, unverified bull shite information that normally follows events such as these.
Grow up? There's a full-blown race riot in my neck of the woods in large part because of how poorly information was disseminated after the event. This ain't the first time a police officer shot a black kid in STL. It won't be the last. They don't fricking riot every time. They did this time because the rioter's narrative won. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:37 pm to PaddlingTiger
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The witness says the first shot came from inside the car.
Thats why I said his buddy's statement is plausible... Cop grabbed him through window, kid punched cop, cop fired shot.
If there are bullets in the kids back, which I think is likely, then the officer deserves to be tried for murder.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:38 pm to PaddlingTiger
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The witness says the first shot came from inside the car. The cop got out of the car. Brown and his buddy ran. The cop shot Brown a second time in the back. Brown turned with his hands in the air and told the cop he did not have a gun. The cop then shot Brown five more times.
If that's true the first shot may have been a clean shot. The rest aren't.
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If that story is true, the cop should be facing serious jail time.
Aren't cops trained to shoot to kill once they begin discharging a firearm? Are they trained to stop if their victim pleads for his life?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:38 pm to Lsut81
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If there are bullets in the kids back, which I think is likely, then the officer deserves to be tried for murder.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:39 pm to 4LSU2
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I don't give a shite what did or did not happen in this case. There is no excuse for Americans to riot, steal, and tear up stuff that does not belong to them. The court system will work its due process and an decision will be made by the powers that be at a later date.
The display of filth that has plagued my tv screen of seeing these Americans act in this manner sickens me.
Wow.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:39 pm to the808bass
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Grow up? There's a full-blown race riot in my neck of the woods in large part because of how poorly information was disseminated after the event. This ain't the first time a police officer shot a black kid in STL. It won't be the last. They don't fricking riot every time. They did this time because the rioter's narrative won. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
Yep. I agree. Calling for you to "grow up" was stupid.
Our neck of the woods is a racial powder keg just waiting to blow up. Sad but true.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:39 pm to DelU249
Anybody that attacks a LEGALLY ARMED individual - assuming said armed individual is not committing a crime - is in effect...ARMED. Just like with Martin/Zimmerman, if the *victim* is of superior strength...the armed and guiltless individual has a legitimate fear of dying.
That said...cops get indignant when challenged. If that's the case, and he lost it...he's toast.
That said...cops get indignant when challenged. If that's the case, and he lost it...he's toast.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:40 pm to Lsut81
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If there are bullets in the kids back, which I think is likely, then the officer deserves to be tried for murder.
Denial of the right to life under color of law is a federal crime punishable by up to death - premeditation not required.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:41 pm to SpidermanTUba
the amount of bullets is irrelevant...you shoot until the threat is "stopped"
so if an officer starts shooting at you (well you should obviously shoot him, but since you don't carry)get on the ground
also, you can put 8 bullets in someone in a few seconds...especially with a low recoil 9mm
so if an officer starts shooting at you (well you should obviously shoot him, but since you don't carry)get on the ground
also, you can put 8 bullets in someone in a few seconds...especially with a low recoil 9mm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:41 pm to RCDfan1950
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Anybody that attacks a LEGALLY ARMED individual - assuming said armed individual is not committing a crime - is in effect...ARMED.
Can you show us the law that actually says that or did you just pull it out your arse?
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Just like with Martin/Zimmerman
Zimmerman stalked Martin. Not quite the same.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:42 pm to DelU249
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the amount of bullets is irrelevant...you shoot until the threat is "stopped"
What is the threat from someone's running back?
What is the threat from someone's hands waving in the air?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:42 pm to DelU249
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the amount of bullets is irrelevant...you shoot until the threat is "stopped"
No its not... If the first shot was fired from within the vehicle as stated by the police, then the officer proceeded to get out of the car and fire another 5-7 shots, then the number of bullets is most certainly relevant. Especially if some of those bullets are in the kids back.
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:46 pm to Lsut81
If Brown reached for the officers gun does that change the narrative? When does an individual that tried to disposes a police officer of his firearm become "not a threat" anymore?
Im withholding judgement personally. I would like to see all the facts first but was just curious if that changes anything for some of you that seem dead set on the police officer being a murderer period.
I suspect that this will go to trial and I suspect that these two questions will be center point in said trial.
Im withholding judgement personally. I would like to see all the facts first but was just curious if that changes anything for some of you that seem dead set on the police officer being a murderer period.
I suspect that this will go to trial and I suspect that these two questions will be center point in said trial.
This post was edited on 8/13/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/13/14 at 4:48 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Zimmerman stalked Martin.
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