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re: Metro Council Targetting St. George Residents....Again
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:36 am to Bengalbadguy
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:36 am to Bengalbadguy
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They only want our money, not our concerns or opinions. Taxation without representation.
And this is why I picked up and moved to another Parish.
Exactly. St. George is East Baton Rouge Parish's last hope to keep the entire parish from going down the drain. The desperate measures of the council and public unions to kill St. George might temporarily slow the decline of the Baton Rouge. But the depths of the decline for the city and eventually the entire parish will be much deeper than anyone is willing to admit.
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Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:52 am to hawkster
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Exactly. St. George is East Baton Rouge Parish's last hope to keep the entire parish from going down the drain
BR going down the drain seems like a bad outcome to this white guy.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:53 am to hawkster
Baton rouge Census numbers
1980 219,419 32.2% increase from 1970
1990 219,531 0.1%
2000 227,818 3.8%
2010 229,553 0.8%
East Baton Rouge Parish Census numbers (includes BR)
1980 366,191 28.4% increase from 1980
1990 380,105 3.8%
2000 412,852 8.6%
2010 440,171 6.6%
The facts are Baton Rouge as a city is stagnant population wise, and the parish as a whole is growing only slightly.
White flight has hurt and when you look at the population growth in parishes surrounding EBR you can easily see how the poor school system has hurt our parish.
1980 219,419 32.2% increase from 1970
1990 219,531 0.1%
2000 227,818 3.8%
2010 229,553 0.8%
East Baton Rouge Parish Census numbers (includes BR)
1980 366,191 28.4% increase from 1980
1990 380,105 3.8%
2000 412,852 8.6%
2010 440,171 6.6%
The facts are Baton Rouge as a city is stagnant population wise, and the parish as a whole is growing only slightly.
White flight has hurt and when you look at the population growth in parishes surrounding EBR you can easily see how the poor school system has hurt our parish.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 9:55 am to doubleb
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Baton rouge Census numbers
1980 219,419 32.2% increase from 1970
1990 219,531 0.1%
2000 227,818 3.8%
2010 229,553 0.8%
The facts are Baton Rouge as a city is stagnant population wise, and the parish as a whole is growing only slightly
Baton Rouge is the only large city in the state to have continued population growth at every census count since the 1840s.
They currently have no room to expand, and depend on slower in-fill development to see population gains....not that it matters given their form of government. I don't see how it would matter all that much if St. George incorporated. People who are leaving because of public schools are already leaving for Livingston or Ascension....at least they might stay in the parish if St. George gets a decent school system setup.
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BR going down the drain seems like a bad outcome to this white guy.
And the entire parish tax base base going down the drain is a better outcome for you? I see St. George as a lifeboat for the parish and for the city - if their school district works out well. People won't have to live for Livingston or Ascension for better schools, and the metro area becomes a more attractive place for families.
I also don't see the justification for the fear mongering here. I don't think some of you are giving Baton Rouge credit for the advances the city has made in the past decade. It's not going to turn into Detroit for a number of reasons. It actually seems to be doing quite well.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:02 am to BugAC
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Taxation without representation.
Except that's not even TRUE. Residents within the proposed city of St. George HAVE representation. Its called the Metro-Council. . They appear to have 2 entire seats on the 12 seat council, and parts of a couple of other seats.
LINK
So you are WRONG
Do you think we should violate the Constitution and give them more representation on the Council than is proportionate to their population?
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:04 am to doubleb
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The facts are Baton Rouge as a city is stagnant population wise,
Well no shite - its FULL. It hasn't grown larger geographically, so eventually it would fill up.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:06 am to dewster
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They currently have no room to expand, and depend on slower in-fill development to see population gains....
Actually they did have room to expand, the elected not to annex suburban areas and even close in areas back in the 60s, 70s and 80s.
But even parish wide the growth has not been on par with dynamic cities in other southern states.
The school system has really hurt us.
Zachary, and Central might have a slight effect on white flight, and St. George might too if they got their own school system.
Also new are real efforts to develop apartment and condo units downtown. That is something fairly new.
Personally I would like to see a practical solution to help both sides. The school problem is the key, and after that I don't think many are upset with the situation.
Incorporating St. George has risks.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 10:10 am to doubleb
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Also new are real efforts to develop apartment and condo units downtown. That is something fairly new.
IBM was a major win for downtown. There are several condominium buildings, a Matherne's grocery store, and new hotels in the works.
I think Baton Rouge is doing quite well. Atlanta has several municipalities on its borders with independent school districts and that city is doing well.
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But even parish wide the growth has not been on par with dynamic cities in other southern states
440,000 people live there. It's the most populated parish in the state, so looking at it from a % growth standpoint may not paint an accurate picture. East Baton Rouge saw 31,000 new residents since 2000...and that not bad espeically considering the public school situation. Ascension saw 35,000 new residents in the same time period by comparison.
It's clear EBR is still growing at a steady, healthy rate. It's clearly mostly in unincorporated EBR or in Zachary and Central.
As a side note....after looking this up and realizing that the Baton Rouge metro area is now home to over 800,000 people, I'm kind of shocked that the highway network there is so crappy.
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The Baton Rouge Metropolitan Statistical Area, as defined by the United States Census Bureau, is a sprawling area surrounding the city of Baton Rouge. As of the 2010 census, the MSA had a population of 802,484,[1] up from 705,973 in 2000.[2]
They've added more parishes into the metro area in 2003. I think that's based on the number of commuters into the city. That's still impressive growth. Baton Rouge may catch up to larger metro areas like Memphis within 20 years or so if that continues.
This post was edited on 1/7/14 at 10:29 am
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