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Metro Council Targetting St. George Residents....Again

Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:25 am
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East Baton Rouge Parish officials are trying to pass an ordinance that would lock tax funds collected from unincorporated parts of the parish into the city-parish budget.

Some Metro Council members say the move could impede the proposed city of St. George — which is made up of the unincorporated land south of the city of Baton Rouge — from being able to take sales taxes generated in its region away from the city-parish budget.


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But William Daniel, chief administrative officer for Mayor-President Kip Holden, said the move has nothing to do with St. George and will not prevent the new city from accessing sales taxes should voters decide to incorporate.

Despite being a consolidated form of government, the city-parish budget has for years contained “local service agreements” between the city of Baton Rouge and the unincorporated parts of the parish to jointly fund the local government.

The unincorporated areas of the parish will provide $52.5 million to fund city services in the 2014 budget, according to the local service agreement. The city-parish’s general fund budget is just less than $300 million.

The Metro Council will vote later this month on whether to put the local services agreement into an ordinance for 10 years, giving it the force of law.


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But some council members say they’re not comfortable with what they see as an obvious attempt to undermine the city of St. George.

“I’m extremely concerned this could be a money grab of the city from the parish,” Councilman Buddy Amoroso said. “It appears that it is a vindictive move to try to stop the city of St. George.”

Amoroso, who represents residents in both the city of Baton Rouge and the proposed St. George area, said he will not take a side in the debate but believes parish officials should not try to block the formation of the city.

“If the city is created, we as a parish will have to figure out how to go forward financially,” he said.

Councilman Ryan Heck, who also represents residents in both areas, agreed the move appears designed to hurt St. George.

“This is Baton Rouge protecting itself, protecting its revenue stream, basically at the expense of the parish,” Heck said. “If the shoe was on the other foot and the St. George area generated a whole lot less money, you wouldn’t see Baton Rouge really care. But St. George is Baton Rouge’s cash register, so they’ve got to protect it.”


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“I think it’s pretty obvious why they’re doing it,” he said. “They sweep the money from the unincorporated parts of the parish and spend it on the city services. If this area was to become a municipality, they wouldn’t be able to do that.”

But Rainey said the local ordinance would be ineffectual.

“We don’t think that a law they come up with is going to trump the Louisiana constitution,” Rainey said.

Councilman John Delgado, a vocal opponent of the St. George effort, agreed with Daniel that the measure was merely formalizing a budget agreement and practice that has been in place for years.

But he conceded the measure would protect the current city-parish budget should St. George incorporate.

“I think it guarantees the services we’ve been providing to the people of East Baton Rouge Parish for years will continue despite changes that occur to the governing structure of the parish,” he said.


Even more reasons to want to incorporate. To keep these assholes hands out the pockets of St. George residents. How low will the BR Metro Council go?
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:34 am to
It will result in a big time court case if passed. The city would literally be stealing money from another incorporated municipality and all of the physical areas within it.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25361 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:40 am to
This really does sort of bolster the notion that St. George is a colony for Baton Rouge to exploit.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:49 am to
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This really does sort of bolster the notion that St. George is a colony for Baton Rouge to exploit.


Couple this with the Metro Council having a vote that only residents residing in Baton Rouge proper can be employed by the city.

"We want your money, but not your opinions."

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:49 am to
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This really does sort of bolster the notion that St. George is a colony for Baton Rouge to exploit.


Pretty much.


My general argument on the whole subject of St. George is "Everytime that BR opens its mouth, the case for St. George gets stronger."

The Metro Council, the firefighter's union, the police union, etc., have been alternately screaming about the impact on Baton Rouge if this happens and attempting to screw St. George.


They're so fricking stupid that they're going to goddamn guarantee that St. George happens instead of possibly having it die at the polls.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:51 am to
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Couple this with the Metro Council having a vote that only residents residing in Baton Rouge proper can be employed by the city.

"We want your money, but not your opinions."


Which was even fricking stupider by them, IMHO, because it solidified the support of Zachary, Baker, and Central behind St. George because they were getting fricked with in the process.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80155 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:51 am to
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trying to pass an ordinance that would lock tax funds collected from unincorporated parts of the parish into the city-parish budget.

Some Metro Council members say the move could impede the proposed city of St. George — which is made up of the unincorporated land south of the city of Baton Rouge — from being able to take sales taxes generated in its region away from the city-parish budget.


There's no fricking way this would stand up in court, would it?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:52 am to
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They're so fricking stupid that they're going to goddamn guarantee that St. George happens instead of possibly having it die at the polls.


Instead of antagonizing St. George, why don't they just work with the residents? It seems like all they want to do is take our money, and then take jabs at us, and dilute the say we have in the city. They only want our money, not our concerns or opinions. Taxation without representation.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 11:54 am to
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They're so fricking stupid that they're going to goddamn guarantee that St. George happens instead of possibly having it die at the polls.




Instead of antagonizing St. George, why don't they just work with the residents? It seems like all they want to do is take our money, and then take jabs at us, and dilute the say we have in the city. They only want our money, not our concerns or opinions. Taxation without representation


Because the main people who are screwing with St. George are people who don't have to face the voters from that area.

The various union chiefs and the five stooges on the Metro Council pushing most of this bullshite don't receive any votes from this area, so they feel free to screw with them.

Metro Council members representing portions of St. George or other municipalities outside BR such as Zachary and Central are attempting to keep things sane.
Posted by Bengalbadguy
BR
Member since Jan 2009
1537 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:38 pm to
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They only want our money, not our concerns or opinions. Taxation without representation.


And this is why I picked up and moved to another Parish.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:48 pm to
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Couple this with the Metro Council having a vote that only residents residing in Baton Rouge proper can be employed by the city.

Stop making shite up. It makes you look like a flaming drama queen. At least try to be honest when you post.

There has been no vote on that and there won't be. Two goofball councilwomen talked to a reporter about the possibility of that after the last council meeting in December and the other council members and Kip Holden all shot it down immediately.
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"We want your money, but not your opinions."

Frankly if everyone's opinions in SG are as idiotic as yours, I wouldn't want them either.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 2:51 pm to
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Taxation without representation.
SG has at least 3 members (there may be 4) on the city parish council who currently represent either all or part of the SG proposed area.

Your Drama Queen untruthful proclamations are only hurting your cause.

ETA: I just looked up the council district boundaries. There are SEVEN council districts which are either completely within the SG proposed city area or their district currently includes part of the SG area. 7 out of 12 members represent the citizens of St George.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 2:59 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

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Couple this with the Metro Council having a vote that only residents residing in Baton Rouge proper can be employed by the city.


Stop making shite up. It makes you look like a flaming drama queen. At least try to be honest when you post.


"Having a vote"? No.

Attempting to get it on the agenda so they could vote on it? Yes.

Did they attempt to justify this stupid fricking policy in public? Yes.


It was a giant middle finger to everyone in the parish that doesn't live in the incorporated city of BR.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:00 pm to
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East Baton Rouge Parish officials are trying to pass an ordinance that would lock tax funds collected from unincorporated parts of the parish into the city-parish budget.



What a concept. The Parish gets to spend Parish funds. You'd think it'd already be like that.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Attempting to get it on the agenda so they could vote on it? Yes.
Wrong. It won't be on the agenda. Anybody can say "I want something on the agenda." That doesn't mean it will happen.

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Did they attempt to justify this stupid fricking policy in public? Yes.

Just like the promoters or SG are attempting to justify their stupid ideas in public.

There is no monopoly of stupid ideas when it comes to politicians.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Attempting to get it on the agenda so they could vote on it? Yes.


Wrong. It won't be on the agenda. Anybody can say "I want something on the agenda." That doesn't mean it will happen.


They attempted to put it on the agenda, on short notice at that.

The only reason it wasn't heard was that the council rules state that an agenda item has to have been on the announced agenda X number of hours beforehand unless all other Metro Council members approve of it.

Delgado blocked it from appearing on the agenda, even though he is gung-ho against St. George, because even HE saw it as that fricking stupid.



Combine that with those same members' public rantings and ravings about how they "allowed" Mall Of LA to be built at Bluebonnet and that they could have chosen to build it by Southern instead shows the kind of deluded people involved.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95744 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:16 pm to
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There is no monopoly of stupid ideas when it comes to politicians.


No, but the five black Metro Council members have sure been cornering the market on it during the discussions about St. George.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:33 pm to
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No, but the five black Metro Council members
"But...but....but....the creation of St George is NOT about race!"



And the truth is only 3 of the 5 black council members have actively spoken out against and opposed SG.

The most vocal council opponent of SG and the one who says he will personally file a lawsuit to block it is John Delgado, who is white.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Stop making shite up. It makes you look like a flaming drama queen. At least try to be honest when you post.


I'm not making it up. It was proposed by 2 council members. We get it Russian, you really don't like the St. George incorporation. That doesn't mean that everything that is done contrary to your beliefs did not happen.

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Frankly if everyone's opinions in SG are as idiotic as yours, I wouldn't want them either


Great input. Would read again.

You are pretty damned obsessive over this. I'm sorry the internet is hurting your feelings.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52798 posts
Posted on 1/6/14 at 3:46 pm to
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"But...but....but....the creation of St George is NOT about race!"


Again with the race baiting. I'll just call you Rex from now on.
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