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re: Metro Council Targetting St. George Residents....Again
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:01 pm to BugAC
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:01 pm to BugAC
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"But...but....but....the creation of St George is NOT about race!"
Again with the race baiting. I'll just call you Rex from now on.
I guess it's race-bating to identify some of the loudest and stupidest opponents of the movement.
Delgado's an a-hole, but at least his solution of "If they want to be incorporated, we'll work with them!" is feasible to a degree, especially with regards to businesses like that studio at the old Coca Cola plant which is half-incorporated half-not.
The stupid bitch whining about how "they" (the Metro Council) built Mall Of Louisiana and Renaissance and that they could have been put near Southern instead? Not so much.
One of these two has an idea of what government does and the other has delusions of grandeur about her position as an elected official.
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:07 pm to teke184
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Delgado's an a-hole, but at least his solution of "If they want to be incorporated, we'll work with them!" is feasible to a degree, especially with regards to businesses like that studio at the old Coca Cola plant which is half-incorporated half-not
I wonder why Delgado has had no takers to date.
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The stupid bitch whining about how "they" (the Metro Council) built Mall Of Louisiana and Renaissance and that they could have been put near Southern instead? Not so much.
General Growth Properties developed Mall of La. The parish made them do millions in improvements to the area infrastructure.
The fact the city was too dumb to annex them, tells you everything you need to know.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:12 pm to doubleb
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I wonder why Delgado has had no takers to date.
One taker has been made public. It was the studio I mentioned in my response.
Being incorporated simplifies things for them because, right now, they have to have both BRPD/BRFD and EBRSO / St. George on the lot depending on where on the lot they're doing their pyrotechnics.
They've been openly jockeying to get incorporated for a while now and are trying to use St. George as an excuse to do so.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:27 pm to teke184
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One taker has been made public. It was the studio I mentioned in my response
Not per BR Business Report
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Delgado: No formal requests for annexation so far
It's been almost a month since Metro Councilman John Delgado announced his plans to sponsor an ordinance to annex the unincorporated properties of those wishing to join the City of Baton Rouge, but Delgado says no one has yet filed a formal request to be annexed. Celtic Media Centre declared intentions to request annexation, he says, but the company has yet to initiate the process with the Parish Attorney's Office so that the proposal could be placed on the Metro Council agenda. After property owners apply through the office of the parish attorney, the Parish Tax Assessor's Office must review the request, Delgado says. He has met with Patrick Mulhearn, director of studio operations at Celtic, but says it may be a few more weeks before Celtic is ready to initiate the process. Despite the headlines Delgado's proposed ordinance garnered last month, Celtic has been the only property owner to announce intentions to pursue annexation. "I haven't had anyone file a formal request," says Delgado, who attributes the lackluster response to the busy holiday season. "But I've had several people who've been interested in it." Now that the holidays are over, Delgado says, he expects to receive more requests. While there is no deadline to request annexation, Delgado says those requests are easier to process when the property lies in an unincorporated area. "It's a different and a little bit more complicated process if we do that after the incorporation of St. George, if that ever happens," says Delgado. He announced his annexation offer in response to the effort to incorporate a new city of St. George in the unincorporated portion of southeast East Baton Rouge Parish.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:44 pm to BugAC
Once again, instead of trying to unite the city/parish, they play games and only bolster the resolve of the people in St George.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:46 pm to doubleb
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The parish made them do millions in improvements to the area infrastructure.
This is not uncommon for large scale developments. They would've had to do this no matter where they built the mall.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:54 pm to BugAC
This is not directed to the OP....but is anyone else a little surprised to see normally level headed, insightful posters get entrenched on this issue and resort to race baiting and dishonesty to debate the St George incorporation?
Posted on 1/6/14 at 4:58 pm to elprez00
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This is not uncommon for large scale developments. They would've had to do this no matter where they built the mall
I have no problem with the parish making them improve the infrastructure around the mall, in fact too many developers got away with doing nothing and raped the parish.
My point was the parish didn't build the Mall, and the developers paid for a lot of ancillary stuff (as he should).
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:02 pm to elprez00
Exactly!
What pisses me off the most is this: the SG people are clearly crying out/lashing out through democratic processes in order to get better local schools. That is not up for debate. Instead of being leaders and working with them for a compromise, BR leaders are taking every opportunity to enhance the divide they say they are trying to prevent. It's childish at best and illustrates the fact that EBR is being run by the lowest common denominator.
This is hyperbole but a good analogy:
Instead of talking the suicidal person down from the ledge, the EBR leaders are telling SG to go frick themselves and promising to piss on their grave once it's done.
What pisses me off the most is this: the SG people are clearly crying out/lashing out through democratic processes in order to get better local schools. That is not up for debate. Instead of being leaders and working with them for a compromise, BR leaders are taking every opportunity to enhance the divide they say they are trying to prevent. It's childish at best and illustrates the fact that EBR is being run by the lowest common denominator.
This is hyperbole but a good analogy:
Instead of talking the suicidal person down from the ledge, the EBR leaders are telling SG to go frick themselves and promising to piss on their grave once it's done.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:10 pm to doubleb
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My point was the parish didn't build the Mall, and the developers paid for a lot of ancillary stuff (as he should).
Thats correct. But they would have been required to do so no matter where they put the mall. If the councilwoman is using the infrastructure improvements as some insinuation that the parish had any control over where that development took place, she is either trolling or woefully ignorant.
I'm with you, doubleb.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:11 pm to man in the stadium
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Instead of talking the suicidal person down from the ledge, the EBR leaders are telling SG to go frick themselves and promising to piss on their grave once it's done.
I think its more like the EBR leaders are convinced that SG really isnt going to jump, and are purposely daring them just to not appear weak.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:15 pm to elprez00
Possibly so but I have no doubt they are jumping at this point.
Not once has a valid argument against the schools issue been made. Let's debate that since it is at the heart of it all. Nobody seems interested though.
Not once has a valid argument against the schools issue been made. Let's debate that since it is at the heart of it all. Nobody seems interested though.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 5:23 pm to elprez00
I live in St George, and my kids are long out of Catholic School, which they did NOT attend due to the inferiority of the Public School System, though that just made the decision easier.
I was ambivalent about the SG proposal.
But the more these people use the race card, and attempt to bully, the more I am leaning to vote for it.
I was ambivalent about the SG proposal.
But the more these people use the race card, and attempt to bully, the more I am leaning to vote for it.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:26 pm to BugAC
quote:The internet has no bearing on my feelings. It's liars I don't like.
. I'm sorry the internet is hurting your feelings.
You accuse me of race baiting when it was plainly a SG supporter who played the race card to which I responded.
I really am starting to wonder if you are functionally illiterate.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:22 am to LSURussian
Obviously I don't a dog in this fight. What I am so curious about is. The people that live in this area who are within the parish but not in city. They pay taxes to the city for police, fire, and schools. They want to form their own city and then would be required to provide their own services. Why would anyone in Baton Rouge citizens or in the government be against this? This would free up services and man power for other areas. Who are the ppl who live outside st.george to tell them what they can or can't do? People say its not about money, when this area provides the largest amount of tax dollars. Is this as simple as BR doesn't want to lose the tax money?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 7:57 am to man in the stadium
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Possibly so but I have no doubt they are jumping at this point.
Yeah, but I think the Metro Council and Mayor are booking on it not passing. All this tough talk is playing to North BR.
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Not once has a valid argument against the schools issue been made
When the race card is played, chances are there is no valid argument. Hell, the simple fact that there are not enough seats for even half of the students in St George in schools within the district says a lot about where the priorities of EBR are.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:00 am to elprez00
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When the race card is played, chances are there is no valid argument.
hence the adage that a racist is usually someone wining an argument with a liberal
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:18 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Obviously I don't a dog in this fight. What I am so curious about is. The people that live in this area who are within the parish but not in city. They pay taxes to the city for police, fire, and schools. They want to form their own city and then would be required to provide their own services. Why would anyone in Baton Rouge citizens or in the government be against this? This would free up services and man power for other areas. Who are the ppl who live outside st.george to tell them what they can or can't do? People say its not about money, when this area provides the largest amount of tax dollars. Is this as simple as BR doesn't want to lose the tax money?
Obviously it is only about the money.
They want to control the taxes. It's plain and simple.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:20 am to BugAC
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Couple this with the Metro Council having a vote that only residents residing in Baton Rouge proper can be employed by the city.
When did they vote on this?
Posted on 1/7/14 at 8:30 am to urinetrouble
That was shot down.
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