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re: Mensch claiming Carter Page took tape with Trump on it making deal with Russia

Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:21 pm to
I saw that article but she's the lone wolf on that one. She has had some good info but also some conspiracy theories in her reporting.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:22 pm to
Also just from a logistics standpoint, this seems like it is 100% unprovable. Which is a gold mine for a conspiracy theorist because it means they can never be proven wrong saying it.

I mean I guess Russia could offer up the tape if it existed, but why would they ever if one did exist?

So it is basically a story that can not be corroborated, can not be verified or fuly discredited, but definitely feeds those that are looking for this to be true and are willing to set their critical thinking aside to achieve it.

It is also the sort of thing that indirectly helps those she is seemingly wanting to expose by putting out there assertions of fact she can't back up and that upon even superficial examination become faulty without further verification.

This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 9:25 pm
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23189 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:27 pm to
Yep!

The idea of a tape gets her followers whipped in a frenzy. Never mind the fact that recording a tape is about the dumbest thing I've heard in this entire Russian mess. That mythical tape floating around out there lets her spew her fan fiction a little longer.
This post was edited on 4/16/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38352 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:31 pm to
Do people with flip phones use tape recorders?
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26340 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

Trump + Putin = WE'RE GONNA ROCK

That's what I heard the other day when I played the coda of "Sweet Judy Blue Eyes", in REVERSE!
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12085 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

Russian government in hacking the election



Still waiting to be given any sliver of evidence the election was hacked by Russia.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:06 pm to
I bet it was Magic Tape!


Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

And how would that being any different than Barry being caught on tape telling the Russians, that if he is re-elected he can be more flexible with them??????
How is a candidate making an offer to a foreign government in exchange for their illegal assistance in the election ...
different from
... a sitting president telling a foreign leader that he can't make a deal at the moment.

If you can't tell, you really should stay away from a board talking about politics.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69366 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:14 pm to
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mmcgrath
You lose whatever credibility you had with me when you choose to run with a mensch story/theory.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7675 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62529 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:27 pm to
That's the stupidest conspiracy theory Ive heard in a while, and I've heard some doozies...A tape of Trump, basically pinky swearing with Russia in the hopes he would be favorable to them, IF they could hack the DNC and release them telling the truth behind the scenes....I got nothing...lol!
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

because he was president at the time.

There was a huge part that you left out?
quote:

if he is re-elected

If neither Obama or Trump got elected, their promises meant nothing

So again, How is that different?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:33 pm to
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How is a candidate making an offer to a foreign government in exchange for their illegal assistance in the election ...

Since we have been told time and time again that the Russians did not manipulate one vote or voting machine, they must not have accepted Trumps offer????
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
4202 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:39 pm to
quote:

if neither Obama or Trump got elected, their promises meant nothing

So again, How is that different?


Trump was a private citizen at the time.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:49 pm to
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Since we have been told time and time again that the Russians did not manipulate one vote or voting machine, they must not have accepted Trumps offer????
They hacked and had stolen information. Even if Trump was aware of that would implicate him, especially if he made any offer. No one would have to prove anyone followed through if there is a tape and witness to the offer.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35471 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

You lose whatever credibility you had with me when you choose to run with a mensch story/theory.
I am no buying her theory, just responding to the poster who doesn't understand it.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 10:56 pm to
Trump said "always use a courier" during campaign.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/16/17 at 11:52 pm to
Hahaha

Sounds like she knows Mr roseanne barr
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17059 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 12:56 am to
bullshite. NYT and WaPo would have known about this months ago. James Clapper and Mike Morrell would definitely know about it and would not have said there's no evidence of collussion.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99153 posts
Posted on 4/17/17 at 6:22 am to
udtiger claims to have had a foursome with Jennifer Anniston, Courtney Cox and Lisa Kudrow during the second season of Friends.


























Yeah...that's bullshite as well.
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