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re: Melissa Harris-Perry Gives Tear-Filled Apology

Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:44 pm to
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And she shouldn't apologize for making a joke about "family", she should apologize for making a racist joke. Funny pictures of the year? Why is that picture funny? Oh I get it now, rich, white, republican has an adopted black kid in his family. Hilarious!
You do highlight leftist racism here. There is nothing about rightist politics that has a thing to do with race.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:46 pm to
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Was it an off the cuff comment, while playing to her audience...or like Bashir, composed ahead and delivered verbatim. If the former, and she's sorry, and says so, good enough.
Better than good enough. Jokes are either funny or not funny. They are never offensive. Any offense taken is so taken because the offended chooses to take offense.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:47 pm to
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No doubt a about it, this was planned.
Irrelevant. It was a joke.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:48 pm to
Maybe, but don't you think we should be offended by things? Not this in particular, but some things?
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:49 pm to
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Sure, whatever. All I'm saying is if there's one person that gets a pass for commenting on that picture, it's the biracial mormon.
All humans get a pass for speaking.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:49 pm to
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So . . . . again . . . . who should better understand the complete inappropriateness of making fun of a child, an infant, in that situation?


I simply do not agree that the child was being made fun of. Certainly if the situation were entirely devoid of political players, you would at the very least think the photo was curious - I daresay, humorous - would you not? I can't believe how thin-skinned people have become.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:51 pm to
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MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry concluded the “What’s So Funny About 2013?” segment of her Sunday show with a chorus of laughter at the black grandson pictured in former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s family Christmas photo.
I think the Romneys are great Americans, and I think the photo is funny, and I think it is ok to disagree with either of the previous two clauses.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:55 pm to
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Maybe, but don't you think we should be offended by things? Not this in particular, but some things?
Of course we are offended by actual offenses. Theft is an offense—thus, it is offensive. A joke is not an offense—thus, it is offensive only if one chooses to take offense.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:57 pm to
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I think the Romneys are great Americans, and I think the photo is funny, and I think it is ok to disagree with either of the previous two clauses.


Couldn't agree more.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:57 pm to
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Jokes are either funny or not funny. They are never offensive
So for example, an adult making fun of a disabled child wouldn't be offensive if the adult was "joking"?

That's a fairly sad standard.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:01 am to
No, NC. For example, if I were in a coma and you made fun of me for it, it couldn't be offensive since I wasn't offended.

I get the general idea here and the desire to be less PC than everyone else, but there actually are things we should be offended by.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:03 am to
Don't care. Only a joke.

I have been subject to my own share of misfortunes. I hear jokes about them all the time. They are jokes. Jokes are inherently good.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:07 am to
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but there actually are things we should be offended by.


And one of them is this Romney thing?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:07 am to
The stupid is flowing freely tonight. I specifically excluded this.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:19 am to
Yeah, it's always just a joke when coming from the left but an unforgivable offense when going the other way.

God you suck.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:22 am to
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Yeah, it's always just a joke when coming from the left but an unforgivable offense when going the other way. God you suck.
Jokes are jokes no matter what. Your shitty, retarded point in no way applies to me.
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:30 am to


People are too sensitive.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:35 am to
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People are too sensitive.
Correct. They have boring lives full of ennui and devoid of interpersonal sexual activity, and they take out their depression and angst on others in the vain hope of pulling others down into the depression and angst with which they are lamentably familiar. They are absolutely pathetic, and they are to be shamed by the rest of us.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:37 am to
Oh frick. Not another armchair psychologist.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 12:45 am to
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I simply do not agree that the child was being made fun of. Certainly if the situation were entirely devoid of political players, you would at the very least think the photo was curious - I daresay, humorous - would you not? I can't believe how thin-skinned people have become.


My first thoughts weren't political or racial. As an adoptive mother, I shook my head at the disrespect the family was given. Interracial adoption isn't always easy for the children or the family and it's bc of this type of reaction. To highlight that on a show that claims to be progressive was mind boggling.

I wasnt offended. I simply thought it was ignorant and incredibly insensitive. That child will hear plenty of that nonsense while growing up. Thankfully, he seems to have a large family to give him support and help him know he is an included and important part of the family - not just the token adopted black kid.
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