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re: McConnell: Next step is a straight repeal vote

Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:36 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:36 am to
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You think they just ignored Trump's constant drumbeat of repealing and replacing obamacare?



They did. Many have been interviewed since the election and have said they didn't think he was serious about it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42563 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:45 am to
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Good, repeal it. Once repealed, the democrats lose the talking point about "fixing" Obamacare. They either deal on a simple market based plan or be seen as obstructionist




Well stated - far better than I have attempted.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:51 am to
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And you forget, Trump was elected in part by blue collar moderates in the Midwest who generally support Obamacare and benefit from it.


A lot of people who think they're benefiting from it really aren't. It's just made budgeting for healthcare easier.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:53 am to
With two year deadline.

Meh.

So political.

We did it. Check back in two years to find out if you can afford the new deductibles in your region.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98683 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:57 am to
This will pass. Anyone that changes their vote from 2015 is slitting their own wrists.
Posted by UnclassyStudent
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
2835 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Good, repeal it. Once repealed, the democrats lose the talking point about "fixing" Obamacare. They either deal on a simple market based plan or be seen as obstructionist


The funny part is that a straight repeal would require Democratic votes to pass the Senate.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52785 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 7:59 am to
quote:

With two year deadline.



I agree is bullshite.

quote:

Meh.

So political.

We did it. Check back in two years to find out if you can afford the new deductibles in your region.




The implementation of Obamacare was much worse. Passed in 2010, not implemented until what, 2015? And, it's failed so fantastically in such a short period of time.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:04 am to
quote:

But as conservatives will remind them, most of them already voted for straight repeal in 2015 — and it will be hard to explain why they wouldn't do it again.
Because they knew it would never go anywhere. It was all for show.

fricking assholes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:04 am to
They don't want a market based plan. They don't want healthcare or insurance costs to go down. They want control.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34043 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:04 am to
McConnell needs to go. He's living in 1917, with his precious Senate rules and decorum, and his sense of noblesse oblige. All of the Republican Leadership needs to go.
Posted by OneFifty
No favorite team now
Member since Aug 2012
3872 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:10 am to
quote:

they didn't think he was serious about it

It is difficult to discern what is meant by this, if this is indeed what was said.

I immensely enjoy Presidential history and came upon this statement recently:
quote:

By the Constitution it is made my duty either to approve the bill by signing it or to return it with my objections to the House in which it originated. I can not conscientiously give it my approval, and I proceed to discharge the duty required of me by the Constitution--to give my reasons for disapproving.
~From John Tyler's 1841 address to the Senate upon vetoing a banking bill



He continued, using constitutional articles to outline his various objections and offered guidance on what would be constitutionally acceptable. Tyler was so serious in discharging the constitutional duties of the office, he was willing to be disowned and put out of his own party (Whigs) and suffer the humiliation of nearly his entire cabinet resigning.

Relatively speaking, I too might question presidential seriousness.


Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:32 am to
He doesn't have the sack to do it.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62403 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:36 am to
It was just reported they think they have 51 votes to repeal, so how many do they need? Is it 50, with VP for 51?
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:39 am to


Please, please, please let this happen ! Goodbye GOP !
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:39 am to
A straight repeal is what weve wanted all along you old turtle fart
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73481 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:39 am to
This is where it should have started.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:39 am to
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It is not going to get repealed. This is what happens with entitlements. They are impossible to take away.



This is correct. This is why Obamacare, IMO, was pretty evil to begin with.

Now the Republicant's are the ones who have to fix it. The same Republicant's who are too afraid to fight anyone not named Trump.

Obama, the Dems, and the MSM knew what they were doing in 2009 when they shoved this abortion down everyone's throats.

What a sick situation.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73481 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Please, please, please let this happen ! Goodbye GOP !
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:40 am to
Well there is that thing called the nuclear option...
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:41 am to
I bet it does get repealed. Truth be told, Trump himself could dismantle Obamacare without Congress. Congress was supposed to set up an escrow fund when Obamacare was created so it could be funded, instead it's just been funded through the budget. Eliminate the funding and it will collapse itself.
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