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re: McCain Says Putin a Bigger Threat Than Islamic State
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:34 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Russia is a real adversary with a real means of power.
In the last ten years, what global actions have Russia and its allies taken that harmed the U.S?
In the last ten years, what global actions have the U.S. and its allies taken that harmed Russia?
Maybe we should look at our own foreign actions before jumping on the "frick Russia" train.
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Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:34 pm to GumboPot
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Russia can be reasoned with.
Here is the answer. Seems like too many people grew up in the 70's and 80's and apparently find that delicious Cold War fear mongering way too comfortable
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I mean, he's right if I'm being honest.
ISIS is more of a nuisance than a real threat. Russia is a real adversary with a real means of power.
Exactly. It's incredible the amount of hatred that McCain and Graham get for saying things that aren't even wrong.
The non-state actors are not the root cause of the real problem, and they never have been. They are merely the symptom of rogue states participating in asymmetrical proxy wars, usually with the explicitly stated intent to damage American interests and allies.
Putin supports those who wage proxy wars against America, and Putin also supports propaganda efforts (largely successful ones, I might add) to convince American voters that their own government is the real source of the problem. That represents a much bigger threat than just ISIS.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:48 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Russia has no interest in a war with the United States.
That's such a freshman view on it. Russia is actively trying to bring the US to it's knees.... like it or not. That is a form of warfare.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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You guys love some global instability and war.
So you believe that Russia isn't actively trying to bring done the US?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:51 pm to Antonio Moss
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In the last ten years, what global actions have Russia and its allies taken that harmed the U.S?
subversive tactics within the US and in other countries...
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:58 pm to Doc Fenton
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It's incredible the amount of hatred that McCain and Graham get for saying things that aren't even wrong.
They cross the line alot! Especially towards Trump. In this case they are 100% right.
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Putin supports those who wage proxy wars against America, and Putin also supports propaganda efforts (largely successful ones, I might add) to convince American voters that their own government is the real source of the problem.
The KGB has done a heck of a job in backing (directly and indirectly) useful idiots to move the ideals of socialism to prominence in the US.
They have done this in a lot of countries through out the world. To deny it is to bury your head in arse.
What we have right now..
1- Liberals... Useful idiots (their words) who promote socialism.
2- Conservatives who hate socialism, but refuse to think that Russia has that kind of influence.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:58 pm to MButterfly
And people like you who go into fits and see Russians behind every corner are helping them do just that.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 1:59 pm to MButterfly
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So you believe that Russia isn't actively trying to bring done the US?
No
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:00 pm to MButterfly
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In the last ten years, what global actions have Russia and its allies taken that harmed the U.S?
subversive tactics within the US and in other countries...
Specific examples please
and why didn't you answer the second question?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:10 pm to MButterfly
I've seen similar stupidity from politicians:
'Unemployment is worse than nuclear war.'... Hubert Humphrey
'Unemployment is worse than nuclear war.'... Hubert Humphrey
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:12 pm to MButterfly
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And I agree!
1- Putin is actively trying to bring the US down.
2- He is using the Media as part of that
3- He is using the left to do that
4- He is using our system aginst us to do that
4- He is promoting the idea that we need to allow any and all Muslims in because he understands the devastation it can cause.
I hope you're a troll because you're a fricking idiot of you support anything McCain says.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:57 pm to ILeaveAtHalftime
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And people like you who go into fits and see Russians behind every corner are helping them do just that.
Yeah.. that's me! Nailed it
Posted on 5/29/17 at 2:59 pm to Antonio Moss
If I were Russian, I'd probably agree with you.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 3:10 pm to Antonio Moss
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Specific examples please
1- Russia in Syria.
2- Russia in Venezuela
3- Russia in Ukraine
Within the US we have Antifa, we have socialist who promote the ideas of Putin.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 3:12 pm to ninthward
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I hope you're a troll because you're a fricking idiot of you support anything McCain says.
Like I stated... He is wrong on many things. But not this.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 3:14 pm to Doc Fenton
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The non-state actors are not the root cause of the real problem, and they never have been. They are merely the symptom of rogue states participating in asymmetrical proxy wars, usually with the explicitly stated intent to damage American interests and allies.
It's alarming the power people think non-state actors have. Every Muslim is apart of Muslim Brotherhood. ISIS is a greater threat than Iran and Russia. It's silly. Saying Russia, a nuclear state power with geopolitical interests opposed to the US in many places in the world, is a threat to the US is a very benign statement to me.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 4:57 pm to MButterfly
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1- Russia in Syria.
2- Russia in Venezuela
3- Russia in Ukraine
You literally know nothing about geopolitical issues. Why do you think Russia is in the Ukraine and in Syria?
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:17 pm to MButterfly
If the left's contention is that the Russians goal is to sow confusion and instability in our political system then the left has been performing exactly as Putin wishes.
I am surprised he doesn't spoonfeed them more bullshite than he already does.
I am surprised he doesn't spoonfeed them more bullshite than he already does.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 5:39 pm to MButterfly
Was there ever a worse tandem for president and Vp than McCain and Palin?
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