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re: Maybe homosexuality should be treated more like a disease???

Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:05 am to
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:05 am to
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If you could actually think, you might be able to tell the difference between 'normal' and - you can't discriminate against this person or that person

except that silly because discrimination in United States is completely legal and it's done all the time.


Even if that was true, you should just leave other people to what they feel right doing as long as it doesn't harm others.

I do dog rescue and I had this puppy that I was trying to place. I put it out to my network and I soon had an e-mail from a guy down in Grant Park who e-mailed me that "he and his partner" wanted the puppy. They owned a scooter and mo-ped shop so 'partner' wasn't exactly a red flag. So I took the puppy down there on a Saturday morning and they wanted to keep it. All good.

I could tell they were gay but - hey none of my business-. About 6 or 8 other gay guys began to show up to see the puppy. Two of them kissed each other; I spun around and faced away. Very subtle of me.

Turned out they were not only gay, they were gay leathermen. The one guy asked his Master for permission to have the puppy.

An interesting morning.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:06 am to
Yep, exactly what I thought. No one forced him to bake a single cake.

Also:

quote:

“They are turning people of faith into religious refugees”


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35488 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to
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Maybe attention whoring is a disease?

Fine. But in that case they aren't "just seeking attention". They're displaying symptoms.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to
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I'm not really on the fence about this. Overall, I always favor keeping the government and others out of my business. I simply extend that to others as well.


Why does the government have to be the ones to help?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to
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Maybe attention whoring is a disease?



Maybe.

Maybe fishing is a disease? Maybe watching football is a disease? Maybe being born with brown eyes is a disease?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42595 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to
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It can just be considered no one else's business.


That would be fine with me - just go about your business and get out of the political business. Searching for some bakery shop that you can put out of business is not normal.

At our wedding my best man and my wife's maid of honor were both homosexual. We had known they were 'different' that way since high school. Made no difference because they were both our best friends. If either of them had insisted that we change our normal ways of acting - talking - participating - voting - etc they would not longer have been friends, let alone best friends, or honorees at our wedding.

BTW - my best man was taken away in the first wave of AIDS - before it even had a recognizable name.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98775 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to
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Yep, exactly what I thought. No one forced him to bake a single cake.


Of for frick's sake.

"Bake THIS cake, or you will be fined out of business. By the way, you have violated the law by not baking it."

The fact the baker chose to close up shop, rather than comply, does not prove your point.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to
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Fine. But in that case they aren't "just seeking attention". They're displaying symptoms.


I agree with that.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:09 am to
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Why does the government have to be the ones to help?


They don't. As I said in the portion you chose not to include, we already have options to help anyone that wants the help. We can talk about improving mental healthcare in this country if you'd like.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:10 am to
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The fact the baker chose to close up shop, rather than comply, does not prove your point.


Actually, that's exactly what it does.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:10 am to
I still haven't seen a real answer to my question about whether we should cure it or not

Note for specificity. I am not asking if we should force it to be cured or not.

But if it's born in then there's a decent chance that at some point in the future a cure will be discovered. Or would people seek to prevent this cure from being researched

Assuming the Cure is discovered would people seek to stop it from being used? If so why?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:11 am to
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I still haven't seen a real answer to my question about whether we should cure it or not


It can't be 'cured' and it is none your business.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98775 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:11 am to
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Actually, that's exactly what it does.




If such coercion by government being used as a sword by gays does not concern you, you are unreachable and unteachable.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:12 am to
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Maybe fishing is a disease? Maybe watching football is a disease? Maybe being born with brown eyes is a disease?


Very good point. But these also have psychiatric help if someone gets out of hand with it. Except of course the brown eyes that you are so obviously born with.

If someone is willing to kill over football or fishing, then it becomes a huge mental problem in my book. And they need treatment.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:12 am to
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But if it's born in then there's a decent chance that at some point in the future a cure will be discovered.


That is not a true statement. It is like curing brown eyes.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:13 am to
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It can't be 'cured
today
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' and it is none your business.

I 100% agree. I would never for someone to take the Cure if it existed. That wasn't my question

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:14 am to
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That is not a true statement. It is like curing brown eyes.
not really. It's a behavior. Lots of behaviors are born in that there are treatments for.

Again. I am not seeking to four scores on people. I'm asking you if people should be prevented from using the Cure or even developing one?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:14 am to
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If such coercion by government being used as a sword by gays does not concern you, you are unreachable and unteachable.


I oppose the action the government took, but I also don't live in Colorado. It's up to the people in Colorado to sort it out if they agree with us on that.

That still doesn't mean they were forced to bake anyone a cake.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:17 am to
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It doesn't have to be considered normal. It can just be considered no one else's business.


Kind of like cancer, you mean?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:18 am to
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But these also have psychiatric help if someone gets out of hand with it.


So does homosexuality if that's their choice, or if it affects others. My concern is the implication that some have made that it is inherently a problem that affects others.

quote:

If someone is willing to kill over football or fishing, then it becomes a huge mental problem in my book. And they need treatment.


OK? Do you think we'd currently look the other way if someone was "willing to kill" over homosexuality?
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