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re: Maybe homosexuality should be treated more like a disease???
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:05 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:05 am to ShortyRob
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If you could actually think, you might be able to tell the difference between 'normal' and - you can't discriminate against this person or that person
except that silly because discrimination in United States is completely legal and it's done all the time.
Even if that was true, you should just leave other people to what they feel right doing as long as it doesn't harm others.
I do dog rescue and I had this puppy that I was trying to place. I put it out to my network and I soon had an e-mail from a guy down in Grant Park who e-mailed me that "he and his partner" wanted the puppy. They owned a scooter and mo-ped shop so 'partner' wasn't exactly a red flag. So I took the puppy down there on a Saturday morning and they wanted to keep it. All good.
I could tell they were gay but - hey none of my business-. About 6 or 8 other gay guys began to show up to see the puppy. Two of them kissed each other; I spun around and faced away. Very subtle of me.
Turned out they were not only gay, they were gay leathermen. The one guy asked his Master for permission to have the puppy.
An interesting morning.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:06 am to udtiger
Yep, exactly what I thought. No one forced him to bake a single cake.
Also:
Also:
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“They are turning people of faith into religious refugees”
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to LukeSidewalker
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Maybe attention whoring is a disease?
Fine. But in that case they aren't "just seeking attention". They're displaying symptoms.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'm not really on the fence about this. Overall, I always favor keeping the government and others out of my business. I simply extend that to others as well.
Why does the government have to be the ones to help?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:07 am to LukeSidewalker
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Maybe attention whoring is a disease?
Maybe.
Maybe fishing is a disease? Maybe watching football is a disease? Maybe being born with brown eyes is a disease?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to WhiskeyPapa
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It can just be considered no one else's business.
That would be fine with me - just go about your business and get out of the political business. Searching for some bakery shop that you can put out of business is not normal.
At our wedding my best man and my wife's maid of honor were both homosexual. We had known they were 'different' that way since high school. Made no difference because they were both our best friends. If either of them had insisted that we change our normal ways of acting - talking - participating - voting - etc they would not longer have been friends, let alone best friends, or honorees at our wedding.
BTW - my best man was taken away in the first wave of AIDS - before it even had a recognizable name.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yep, exactly what I thought. No one forced him to bake a single cake.
Of for frick's sake.
"Bake THIS cake, or you will be fined out of business. By the way, you have violated the law by not baking it."
The fact the baker chose to close up shop, rather than comply, does not prove your point.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:08 am to northshorebamaman
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Fine. But in that case they aren't "just seeking attention". They're displaying symptoms.
I agree with that.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:09 am to LukeSidewalker
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Why does the government have to be the ones to help?
They don't. As I said in the portion you chose not to include, we already have options to help anyone that wants the help. We can talk about improving mental healthcare in this country if you'd like.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:10 am to udtiger
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The fact the baker chose to close up shop, rather than comply, does not prove your point.
Actually, that's exactly what it does.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:10 am to WhiskeyPapa
I still haven't seen a real answer to my question about whether we should cure it or not
Note for specificity. I am not asking if we should force it to be cured or not.
But if it's born in then there's a decent chance that at some point in the future a cure will be discovered. Or would people seek to prevent this cure from being researched
Assuming the Cure is discovered would people seek to stop it from being used? If so why?
Note for specificity. I am not asking if we should force it to be cured or not.
But if it's born in then there's a decent chance that at some point in the future a cure will be discovered. Or would people seek to prevent this cure from being researched
Assuming the Cure is discovered would people seek to stop it from being used? If so why?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:11 am to ShortyRob
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I still haven't seen a real answer to my question about whether we should cure it or not
It can't be 'cured' and it is none your business.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Actually, that's exactly what it does.
If such coercion by government being used as a sword by gays does not concern you, you are unreachable and unteachable.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:12 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Maybe fishing is a disease? Maybe watching football is a disease? Maybe being born with brown eyes is a disease?
Very good point. But these also have psychiatric help if someone gets out of hand with it. Except of course the brown eyes that you are so obviously born with.
If someone is willing to kill over football or fishing, then it becomes a huge mental problem in my book. And they need treatment.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:12 am to ShortyRob
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But if it's born in then there's a decent chance that at some point in the future a cure will be discovered.
That is not a true statement. It is like curing brown eyes.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:13 am to WhiskeyPapa
quote:today
It can't be 'cured
quote:I 100% agree. I would never for someone to take the Cure if it existed. That wasn't my question
' and it is none your business.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:14 am to WhiskeyPapa
quote:not really. It's a behavior. Lots of behaviors are born in that there are treatments for.
That is not a true statement. It is like curing brown eyes.
Again. I am not seeking to four scores on people. I'm asking you if people should be prevented from using the Cure or even developing one?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:14 am to udtiger
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If such coercion by government being used as a sword by gays does not concern you, you are unreachable and unteachable.
I oppose the action the government took, but I also don't live in Colorado. It's up to the people in Colorado to sort it out if they agree with us on that.
That still doesn't mean they were forced to bake anyone a cake.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:17 am to WhiskeyPapa
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It doesn't have to be considered normal. It can just be considered no one else's business.
Kind of like cancer, you mean?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 7:18 am to LukeSidewalker
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But these also have psychiatric help if someone gets out of hand with it.
So does homosexuality if that's their choice, or if it affects others. My concern is the implication that some have made that it is inherently a problem that affects others.
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If someone is willing to kill over football or fishing, then it becomes a huge mental problem in my book. And they need treatment.
OK? Do you think we'd currently look the other way if someone was "willing to kill" over homosexuality?
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