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Maxine Waters labels Ruby Ridge incident as "domestic terrorism"

Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:23 am
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48849 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:23 am
On the part of the Weavers

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Waters reeled off a long list of domestic terror, including the Ruby Ridge standoff in 1992, the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum shooting 2009, the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting in 2012, the Los Angeles International Airport shooting in 2013, the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting in 2015, the Portland train attack this year and Charlottesville.


I would agree it was domestic terrorism, carried out by the FBI, when they murdered Randy's family members in cold blood, does this stupid bitch not realize the court outcomes?

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This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 6:24 am
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:38 am to
Meh. Weavers had bad intentions, and catalyzed some bad shite, so it's hard for me to feel sorry for him.

With that said, Maxine Waters is an idiot.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:38 am to
Nothing Maxine Waters says should be listened to - it is all bullshite noise.

And terrorism is not terrorism unless it effects the way the public lives their lives.

Random acts do not influence the way you go about your day.

I'd say the hoodlums in urban centers are better examples of terrorism than even the OK City bombing. Everyone is reluctant to enter a ghetto area, but nobody is concerned about some rabid white guy bombing a Govt building.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:43 am to
quote:

Weavers had bad intentions, and catalyzed some bad shite


Fill me in on this.

I have not studied the situation, but as I recall, Weaver was pretty much led into a technical violation by the feds regarding the length of the barrel of a shotgun.

What other 'bad intentions' did he have? I know he was a fundamentalist living in the back woods - what else was he involved in that indicated 'bad intentions?'

And the catalyst was the overt overreaction of the feds in shooting his wife and kid. At least that is the way I understand it.

What info do you have that can improve my understanding of the whole affair?

sincere question.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48849 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:44 am to
Pretty much spot on CB58, the only intentions Randy had were to be left alone by fedgov
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:45 am to
quote:

And terrorism is not terrorism unless it effects the way the public lives their lives. Random acts do not influence the way you go about your day.


Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:54 am to
quote:

wrong


hmm - nice thoughtful reply.

SO - are you really afraid of white nationalist racists?

if so, what do you do to mitigate their threats to your safety of well-being? i.e. how have they effected what you do?

Would you feel as safer walking the streets of Detroit late at night than walking the streets of a rural backwoods town in the south at any time of day? - you know, the places where all those dozens of KKKers set up shop.

Please explain your fear of terrorism from white american males.

And I note you have not elaborated on the Weaver affair.

Do you intend to defend your previous statement or not?
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:55 am to
quote:

What other 'bad intentions' did he have?


Fair question. I guess I work under the premise that if you're a white supremacist, You aren't in the interest of making peace.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:58 am to
quote:

thoughtful reply


Your post didn't earn the right for me to reply thoughtfully.

Fortunately, we have a standard definition of terrorism that makes your definition... WRONG.

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quote:

terrorism [ter-uh-riz-uh?m] noun the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 7:00 am
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17816 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 6:59 am to
Her loud mouth is domestic terrorism.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:00 am to
quote:

I guess I work under the premise that if you're a white supremacist, You aren't in the interest of making peace.

Please elaborate.

And please compare to the BLM goals, actions, recent history.

And please compare to Antifa goals, actions, recent history.

"Recent history" includes anything that has happened in the past 50 years. You know, the things that might have influence on what is likely to happen in today's world.

I will grant you that from the 1870s up thru the 1930s, blacks could rightly be described as being terrorized by the KKK. That problem has been so thoroughly solved that no black in America really lives in fear of a KKKer, surely not as fearful as they might be of a drive by shooting in their own neighborhood.

So give me some info or logic that supports your position.

I yearn to hear.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5253 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:04 am to
quote:

quote:
terrorism [ter-uh-riz-uh?m] noun the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.



Lol. And, who exactly did Weaver and his family threaten?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Your post didn't earn the right for me to reply thoughtfully.


In other words, you cannot defend a single phrase of your assertions.

Just as I thought - it is proven yet again that absolutely no prog/DEM can engage in a logical debate concerning their accusations or opinions or agenda.

I have been searching for a prog/DEM who can defend their positions for over 30 years - and so far all I have got is 'holier than thou' misinformation and brainwashed 'dog whistles.'

I will continue to search for a logical prog/DEM.

eta: - your dictionary definition of "terrorism" fits exactly, precisely, factually, and demonstrably the recent and enduring actions of BLM and Antifa. not so much any sustained current activities of the KKK or "white nationalists.'


You are now dismissed.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 7:11 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52918 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:07 am to
It was domestic terrorism perpetrated by the us government
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:09 am to
quote:

Please elaborate


White supremacists overtly support racial cleansing. When bad things happen to those who live in the name of this ideology, I give zero fricks.

If you want to continue equivocating white supremacists with counter social movements, have at it. But I'm done negotiating with a bigot, and I certainly won't write a research paper to prove a point I expect my 8 year old to easily understand.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 7:11 am
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52918 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:12 am to
Wtf ruby ridge was innocent Christians and the irs burned them alive because they didn't want to pay their taxes

They were a love group not a hate group
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:13 am to
quote:

lol. And, who exactly did Weaver and his family threaten?


Nothing, which is why I'm not defending waters categorizing RR as terrorism.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10525 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:14 am to
He was a white supeemacist bro. Let's not forget that.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42520 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:19 am to
quote:

White supremacists overtly support racial cleansing. When bad things happen to those who live in the name of this ideology, I give zero fricks.

If you want to continue equivocating white supremacists with counter social movements, have at it. But I'm done negotiating with a bigot, and I certainly won't write a research paper to prove a point I expect my 8 year old to easily understand.


In other words, you have a 'feelz' that any objection to the excesses of the prog/DEM/MSM cabal is rooted in 'support of racial cleansing.' Yet you cannot describe or even hint at the association between those two thought.

You are the typical "social justice warrior" - you feverously search for things to justify your 'let me make the world better' wants. You will latch on to any exaggeration, misconception, lie, irrationality, or assertion that fits the way you want to view the world.

You are fundamentally afraid of truth and logic. You cannot handle it, because deep inside you KNOW that all your 'virtue signaling' raison d'etre is based on flimsy and false bullshite.

I feel sorry for you - and hope you do not procreate.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 7:19 am to
quote:

He was a white supeemacist bro. Let's not forget that.



So thought crimes can get your wife shot -got it?

Tell your kids to not marry Antifa idiots.
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