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Long but interesting read on complexity of repealing and replacing Obamacare
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:19 am
Written by Mike Pence's former point man on Obamacare, etc.
Decently long, but good read. It's unbelievably complicated, and a lot of political capital will be expended. Contrary to what the yoyos will tell you, they have lots of ideas for getting it done, but it's important to recognize that this thing is a mess with some stuff that's going to be hard to shed (e.g., exchanges, Medicaid expansion).
The critical thing is that they get it right, but they also have to contain conservative outcry while staving off the political grandstanding by the media and the Left.
LINK
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The Available Political Options
With a legislative process for “repeal-and-replace” likely to take months longer than currently advertised, and a series of other competing priorities contingent on it, Speaker Ryan and President Trump face three options.
Punt: Focus on passing the other agenda items first, and come back to Obamacare later;
Plow Ahead: Remain on the current course, knowing that Obamacare will jeopardize much of Trump’s and Ryan’s other agenda items; or
Pivot/Pare Back: Return to something approaching last year’s reconciliation bill, and postpone major “replace” legislation until a future reconciliation measure.
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Given the current environment, the third option seems the clear “least bad” outcome. The first would represent a major political setback, effectively admitting defeat on the president’s top agenda item and betraying Republicans’ seven-year-long commitment to repeal that conservatives sharply opposed to Obamacare will never forget, and may never forgive. The second jeopardizes, if not completely sacrifices, most of the party’s legislative agenda, including items the president will want to tout in his re-election bid.
Therefore, it seems likely that Ryan, Trump, or both will eventually move to pare back the current comprehensive “repeal-and-replace” legislation towards something more closely resembling the 2015/2016 repeal reconciliation bill.
The legislation may include elements of “replace,” but only those with a clear fiscal nexus (due to the Senate’s rules regarding reconciliation) and broad support among Republicans. HSA incentives and funding for high-risk pools might qualify. But more robust provisions, such as Medicaid reforms or refundable tax credits, will likely get jettisoned for the time being, to help pass slimmed down legislation yet this spring.
Decently long, but good read. It's unbelievably complicated, and a lot of political capital will be expended. Contrary to what the yoyos will tell you, they have lots of ideas for getting it done, but it's important to recognize that this thing is a mess with some stuff that's going to be hard to shed (e.g., exchanges, Medicaid expansion).
The critical thing is that they get it right, but they also have to contain conservative outcry while staving off the political grandstanding by the media and the Left.
LINK
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:20 am to Lou Pai
They've had 6-8 years to do this . . . what the hell is taking so long?!?!
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:21 am to Lou Pai
I don't know why, but it feels like repealing and replacing the ACA has moved way down the to-do list.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 8:24 am
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:24 am to Lou Pai
So you're telling me Obamacare is here to stay?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:24 am to PoundFoolish
They've actually had one month to do it, but really not even that. It's going to happen, though. Fortunately, Trump will prove to be invaluable in managing the PR on it.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:26 am to boosiebadazz
quote:
I don't know why, but it feels like repealing and replacing the ACA has moved way down the to-do list.
I think it's still a top priority, but they've realized it's not something they can rush into. It's become such a political landmine(mostly by their doing with calls of repeal) that they have to navigate the process very carefully or risk exposing themselves to massive political damage.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:27 am to boosiebadazz
It hasn't, but it's not going to take precedence over all items in the agenda, like tax reform. As the article points out, there are competing interests in play. Tax reform, Trump's infrastructure spending, spending on beefing up immigration, the Wall itself, etc. It can't all be done overnight.
I wish posters would read it, but maybe like 2 will. The rest will go back to Breitbart or Huffington Post for talking points.
I wish posters would read it, but maybe like 2 will. The rest will go back to Breitbart or Huffington Post for talking points.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 8:29 am
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:28 am to Lou Pai
The legislation was written in such a fashion as to make it a fricking Rubik's cube to repeal and unwind (and the regs make it worse)). This about a brain tumor that is slowly killing the patient, that has tendrils all throughout the brain. You can save the patient with surgery, but the surgery itself is extremely difficult and complex.
frick Obama and the Dems for this shite, and frick John Roberts for saving it.
frick Obama and the Dems for this shite, and frick John Roberts for saving it.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:31 am to Lou Pai
This seems like big news
IRS drops requirement to answer health insurance coverage question. Before, if question wasn't answered then tax return was rejected.
IRS drops requirement to answer health insurance coverage question. Before, if question wasn't answered then tax return was rejected.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:33 am to udtiger
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The legislation was written in such a fashion as to make it a fricking Rubik's cube to repeal and unwind
I'm glad to see some Republicans finally admitting this. I got shouted down and ridiculed on here whenever I pointed that out.
To wit, I don't think it was intentionally written to be so difficult to repeal. It was such a massive undertaking, it was just inevitable.
I think there's more political gain to be made for Republicans by just addressing the problems with the law and working to make changes there. Scrapping it and starting from scratch is a risky move.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:35 am to The Spleen
Sounds like they are going to run into some yuge problems with the CBO, probably this summer... whether one agrees with the CBO methodology or not, it's important.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:38 am to Lou Pai
This Russia stuff is good theater, but the Obamacare fight is going to be the most compelling political story to me this year. I've been fascinated with these town halls across the country and how they've turned into almost referendums to keep the law. I may even go to the one my House Rep is hosting next weekend.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:49 am to The Spleen
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I've been fascinated with these town halls across the country and how they've turned into almost referendums to keep the law.
What have the elections of 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016, been if not referendums to repeal?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:55 am to HonoraryCoonass
Fair point. I'd counter that in 2012, when there was still a legitimate shot to repeal it without causing chaos, Romney lost on a platform of repealing it. But certainly that was the only victory for the law at the polls.
I think now, a lot of people are starting to realize what repeal may mean to them personally. Certainly a lot of these folks showing up at the town halls aren't typical Republican voters so you have to temper the mood at them a bit. But I also think a constituent telling a Congressmen face to face the implications he or she faces with repeal affects most of them.
I think now, a lot of people are starting to realize what repeal may mean to them personally. Certainly a lot of these folks showing up at the town halls aren't typical Republican voters so you have to temper the mood at them a bit. But I also think a constituent telling a Congressmen face to face the implications he or she faces with repeal affects most of them.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 8:56 am to Lou Pai
GOP doesn't want it repealed.
Remember when they voted to repeal it over and over when they knew Obama would veto it?
Remember when they voted to repeal it over and over when they knew Obama would veto it?
Posted on 2/15/17 at 9:20 am to The Spleen
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Certainly a lot of these folks showing up at the town halls aren't typical Republican voters
The people (the loud, angry ones) showing up at town halls aren't Republicans at all. They are mooching dimocratixes, and paid protesters.
And we are still waiting, (it's been nearly 7 years now), to see Obamacare poll over 50%. When 20 someodd million people of the polling public are getting a lifetime of free "insurance," 50% should be a pretty easy threshold to cross.
Posted on 2/15/17 at 11:09 am to Lou Pai
Alas, this thread sinks while the unwashed masses ooh and ah at the theatrics of Rand Paul. Sad!
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