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re: Liberty Kids (move over Tea Party?)
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:31 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:31 pm to TrueTiger
I think the Tea Party was slightly demonized by the media as a radical right wing segment of the Republican party to discredit it from the beginning. I do not think that was the Tea Party's original intention. I believed they were all about financial conservatism.
I do think that over time, old-school Republicans saw the traction the Tea Party was gaining and jumped on board bringing the very thing that was bringing the Republican party down over with them. Now there are so many, the Tea Party really doesn't have the same effect as it did before.
I'm a very financially conservative person, but probably don't share a lot of Republican views on social issues. The Tea Party used to seem like a good fit. But with some of the Republicans who have been the face (although the media may be painting them as "leaders") of the Tea Party over the past years, I really don't give them any feel like I align with them anymore.
I do think that over time, old-school Republicans saw the traction the Tea Party was gaining and jumped on board bringing the very thing that was bringing the Republican party down over with them. Now there are so many, the Tea Party really doesn't have the same effect as it did before.
I'm a very financially conservative person, but probably don't share a lot of Republican views on social issues. The Tea Party used to seem like a good fit. But with some of the Republicans who have been the face (although the media may be painting them as "leaders") of the Tea Party over the past years, I really don't give them any feel like I align with them anymore.
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Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:32 pm to the808bass
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Fiscal responsibility/government overreach seems to be a pretty good catch all. And it certainly applied, to their minds, for Cliven Bundy.
Again, I'm sure it made sense in their minds. To a lot of the country, it likely appeared that they were supporting violence against the government to favor a racist guy who was freeloading on land he didn't have a right to.
And in that respect, I don't blame people who see them as an anti-government movement.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:33 pm to KG6
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I'm a very financially conservative person, but probably don't share a lot of Republican views on social issues. The Tea Party used to seem like a good fit. But with some of the Republicans who have been the face (although the media may be painting them as "leaders") of the Tea Party over the past years, I really don't give them any feel like I align with them anymore.
Would libertarianism not be the most natural fit?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:35 pm to Pettifogger
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anti-government movement
I don't think these words scare nearly as many people any more.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:36 pm to NikolaiJakov
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The tea party has always been first and foremost, financial political reform (tax and spending reform).
The rest is a combination of two things:
1) The media painting them as far-right bible thumpers
2) low information people believing everything the media feeds them
well the TP (or TP candidates), at least where I live, focused on social issues more than economic ones which I think hurt them.
2012 had a shite ton of abortion ads on both sides, and the door knockers often lead with abortion.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:37 pm to the808bass
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anti-government movement
I don't think these words scare nearly as many people any more.
I think about 60% of the country would have a seriously negative reaction to it, at least in the way I'm using it. Which is bad politically, of course.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:42 pm to the808bass
propaganda-resistant
I like it.
I like it.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 12:42 pm to Pettifogger
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Would libertarianism not be the most natural fit?
Yes, but I guess my point was that originally, I thought the Tea Party was more aligned with Libertarianism. I don't feel that way now. I feel like the Tea Party is just a new name for the same old thing.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 1:04 pm to TrueTiger
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Despite personal politics that might seem more in tune with Democrats - world peace, ending the war on drugs and addressing global warming top the list of concerns for many - these millennials say they are more comfortable with Republicans' emphasis on freedom than Democrats' penchant for regulation.
So they're going to fight global warming with freedom.
fricking hippies.
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This seems to be in line with what my vision of the TP was (except for the global warming bit).
Scientific denialism is a pretty big deal in my book.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:21 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Scientific denialism is a pretty big deal in my book.
I do love the "science" argument. Every body is pro-science until its against whatever belief they choose to follow.
Case in Point: I ran into one of those anti-Monsanto rallies against GMOs in Boston.
I bet every one of those people are "pro-science" on Global Warming, but choose to follow what science proves their beliefs on GMOs.
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