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re: Libertarians-what are your political beliefs?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:01 pm to TheIndulger
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:01 pm to TheIndulger
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Yellowstone is less than 1/1000 the size of the United States. Don't you feel stupid now?
Yellowstone is not the only federally owned land in the U.S.
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28 percent of all land is owned by the Federal Govt. Don't you feel really really stupid?
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:05 pm to Zach
If this is how you debate with people, no wonder everybody considers you a bunch of whack jobs
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:07 pm to TheIndulger
My big worry about libertarian-land is land ownership. What is to prevent one person/company to own vast swaths of land and hold monopoly power over rental fees, etc?
Land is scarce, so you can't really have competition if one corporation owns it all.
Land is scarce, so you can't really have competition if one corporation owns it all.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:07 pm to TheIndulger
If you really want good answers to your questions, you should check out /r/Anarcho-Capitalism
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Land is scarce, so you can't really have competition if one corporation owns it all.
How could one corporation (which limited liability is bullshite, anyway) possible enforce their right to...uh...everything?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:08 pm to TheIndulger
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If this is how you debate with people, no wonder everybody considers you a bunch of whack jobs
Wow. I've never had a poster refer to me as a 'bunch'. I feel very multiple. Thanks.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:12 pm to Zach
"You" is also plural for "you". Don't you feel stupid now?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:12 pm to HempHead
I'll check it out, thanks
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:15 pm to TheIndulger
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"You" is also plural for "you". Don't you feel stupid now?
You some kind of Yankee, baw?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:20 pm to TheIndulger
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"You" is also plural for "you". Don't you feel stupid now?
Not in your sentence. Plural would be "You people"
as in...
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:22 pm to TheIndulger
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"You" is also plural for "you". Don't you feel stupid now?
no wonder everybody considers you a bunch of whack jobs
Jobs as in more than one?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:01 pm to TheIndulger
These are their three core beliefs:
1) Government should stay out of our daily lives.
Exceptions:
a) Does not apply to anything I (the libertarian) benefit from. All of those things are Constitutional and a function of government.
b) Does not apply to pregnant women.
2) Blacks are racist.
3) frick the poor.
1) Government should stay out of our daily lives.
Exceptions:
a) Does not apply to anything I (the libertarian) benefit from. All of those things are Constitutional and a function of government.
b) Does not apply to pregnant women.
2) Blacks are racist.
3) frick the poor.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:03 pm to SpidermanTUba
You forgot frick the fat.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:06 pm to Jbird
You guys are meanies.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:07 pm to SpidermanTUba
You forgot to down vote, just use your chubby hand to slide your mouse over and click,
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
These are their three core beliefs:
1) Government should stay out of our daily lives.
Exceptions:
a) Does not apply to anything I (the libertarian) benefit from. All of those things are Constitutional and a function of government.
b) Does not apply to pregnant women.
2) Blacks are racist.
3) frick the poor.
gary johnson was the libertarian nominee for prez ... please link to any racist statement he made ... tia ...
as for the poor, they could start many, many more businesses if the government, at all levels, would get out of the way ... yes or no? ...
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:41 pm to tiderider
As a libertarian-esque person the most frustrating thing is how the Republicans are trying to associate themselves with libertarianism and are redefining what it means.
Firstly they add exceptions that conveniently fit their big government agendas and then claim it means that you should support state and local governments who run rough-shot over your freedoms.
Firstly they add exceptions that conveniently fit their big government agendas and then claim it means that you should support state and local governments who run rough-shot over your freedoms.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:45 pm to Zach
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Libertarians put a high value on private property. In fact liberty can be directly linked to ownership. A society which does not respect private property rights cannot be a free society. That's why communist states like the Soviet Union, China and Cuba started with 'land reform'. You cannot own land.
Therefore, govt institutions like the police and the courts are viewed as necessary by libertarians in order to protect private property. This includes things like murder or rape. You own yourself. Therefore violations against your person are actually private property violations.
All other govt intrusions into behavior must pass a litmus test ...'does it protect liberty/property?' If not, the intrusion is wrong.
Example... A libertarian would support laws against drunk driving because a drunk driver can kill you. A libertarian would not support seat belt laws because someone driving without a seat belt cannot kill you.
Same goes with Drug laws and Prostitution. You own yourself. If you wish to harm yourself with drugs or whores that's your right. It does not infringe on the freedom of others.
Hope this helps. Continue studying libertarianism.
Of course no one supporting Jindal can claim to be much of a Libertarian.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:45 pm to tiderider
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gary johnson was the libertarian nominee for prez ... please link to any racist statement he made ... tia ...
Sorry, I was talking about the libertarians that actually matter. The ones that join the Republican party.
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as for the poor, they could start many, many more businesses if the government, at all levels, would get out of the way ... yes or no? ...
There are plenty of places in the world where the government "gets out of the way" of small business. I wouldn't eat the food there if I were you.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:You literally pulled this quote out of your arse. India, African nations, etc ALL are still recovering from state planning of the economy. India had no private business until the 90s. Africa, with a few exceptions, is still an authoritarian continent with little free market principle.
There are plenty of places in the world where the government "gets out of the way" of small business. I wouldn't eat the food there if I were you.
Do you really think food would be bad without government?
Man, you literally worship the state. I know you are an employee of it, but it is still crazy.
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