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re: Levin's book Liberty and Tyranny
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:16 am to Gmorgan4982
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:16 am to Gmorgan4982
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I just don't see myself connecting philosophically with a Rick Santorum supporter.
I listen to Levin and I disagreed with his support of Santorum. One thing Levin does (that Rush doesn't) is go out on a limb and endorse candidates. He's the first to say that the candidate doesn't always turn out the way he thought. I remember though, for Levin - he was having to choose between Santorum and Romney. He was never a Romney fan because of liberal to moderate record in the past.
You should give Levin a week. He knows his history and gives great insight into the law and the inner workings of the judicial system.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:26 am to MississippiLSUfan
I agree that Levin is an entertainer but he also goes way beyond Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. with his work as President of the Lanark Legal Foundation. He's actually challenging the government in court, not just talking/complaining about big government.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 7:44 am to BobABooey
putting Levin and Hannity in the same sentence is trollol
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:39 am to SuperSaint
I reluctantly read this book a few years ago at the behest of a friend. I literally lost a political bet, and that was my penance.
I'm not a fan o Levin. I haven't read anything of his since, nor do I listen to his show.
Just about everything he predicted in that book has come true under Obama. It is scary how accurate he was, especially regarding Obamacare.
I'm not a fan o Levin. I haven't read anything of his since, nor do I listen to his show.
Just about everything he predicted in that book has come true under Obama. It is scary how accurate he was, especially regarding Obamacare.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:45 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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I'm not a fan o Levin. I haven't read anything of his since, nor do I listen to his show. Just about everything he predicted in that book has come true under Obama. It is scary how accurate he was, especially regarding Obamacare.
Hopefully, the first sentence was thrown in to build credibilty. If not, why would you not read or listen to someone who has demonstrated that level of insight into what is happening and what is to come?
Willfull ignorance?
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:08 am to olgoi khorkhoi
Isn't Levin the guy that consistently calls big government supporters Statists?
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:31 am to SuperSaint
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rush or hannity
Why are these two even placed in the same sentence? Rush's show destroys all other talk shows. I have a password for his podcasts, and listen while doing yard work etc on the weekends. I've definitely noticed a shift toward libertarianism(little l) in him.
Levin makes excellent points, but is a serious blowhard and cuts off disagreeing callers. He gets worked up too easily to convince anybody that doesn't agree with him already. The book is good, though. It keeps an even keel while ramming home the arguments.
Hannity is just fricking terrible. Cadence, "debate" style, and just about everything else about him are annoying.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:36 am to SoulGlo
They're all blowhards. Levin is the best of the bunch as far as the soundness of his reasoning IMO.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:38 am to BobABooey
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I agree that Levin is an entertainer but he also goes way beyond Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. with his work as President of the Lanark Legal Foundation. He's actually challenging the government in court, not just talking/complaining about big government.
That's pretty big, and I respect him for that. His show's entertaining, but he's definitely preaching to the choir.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:46 am to SoulGlo
I struggle with Levin's delivery and lack of humor or wit. But his knowledge base and ability to lay out arguments with historical perspective is unparralelled. He needs a sidekick to bring some humor to his show.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:07 pm to Gmorgan4982
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I did a two-minute Google search on Mark Levin. I found that he supported Rick Santorum over Ron Paul in the 2012 Republican race.
I'll go back to dismissing him now.
I wasn't asking you to vote for him
The thread was about the book. The book has some good concepts that I think should be discussed more in public forums. That's all I was asking you to not dismiss.
And he may not like Ron Paul (idk), but he does seem partial to Rand
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:11 pm to joshnorris14
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Isn't Levin the guy that consistently calls big government supporters Statists?
He does. I believe he really started using that term in the book in question.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:13 pm to DaGarun
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No, he's in a different league than both on intellect.
No. Levin has more formal education. Rush has a higher IQ.
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I really don't understand why Hannity has an audience.
Hannity has a quota on female callers who say nothing so he captures that demographic:
Shawn: Here is Heather from Atlanta...
"Hi, Shawn, I just wanta say that, uhm, I don't know what's up with, ya know, stuff and all."
Shawn: I know what you mean, Heather.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:15 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Just about everything he predicted in that book has come true under Obama. It is scary how accurate he was, especially regarding Obamacare.
Funny thing: the book kinda assumed a Hillary presidency, iirc. Obama wasn't big on the radar. Of course, it didn't change a thing that it was BO rather than HC. The ideology is the problem, not the figurehead.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 12:19 pm to Zach
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No. Levin has more formal education. Rush has a higher IQ.
Hmm... I don't get that impression listening to them or reading their works (though it's been a while since I read anything Rush did), but each his own.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 1:05 pm to DaGarun
quote:This isn't a plus in my book.
but he does seem partial to Rand
quote:Anything involving getting rid of the state?
The book has some good concepts that I think should be discussed more in public forums. That's all I was asking you to not dismiss.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:12 pm to Gmorgan4982
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Anything involving getting rid of the state?
Nah. But he does seem to be a proponent for curtailing its power. Half a loaf, and all that... Not enough for the idealist, I guess, but a more realistic approach, imo.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:16 pm to Gmorgan4982
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This isn't a plus in my book.
Politics is a gradual thing. Its painstakingly slow. You are not going to jump from Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama to someone who is like Ron Paul. There needs to be a bridge. Is it Rand? Cruz? Hell, idk.
As long as its not another one of Rove's pets
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:23 pm to DaGarun
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Politics is a gradual thing.
It's actually pretty rapid:
You go from the smallest government in the history of the planet in the 1780s to the largest government in the history of the world two centuries later.
Unfortunately they don't tend to work in the opposite direction when people have the ability to vote.
Posted on 4/13/14 at 2:26 pm to DaGarun
quote:Decreasing the power of the state without getting rid of it only allows people to be momentarily more productive and gives the state more things to tax and control in the future and, instead of curtailing the state's power, it actually ends up increasing it.
But he does seem to be a proponent for curtailing its power.
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