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re: Leaked Audio of Kerry Reveals President Obama Intentionally Allowed Rise of ISIS
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:21 pm to Doc Fenton
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:21 pm to Doc Fenton
CIA provided heavy weapons to "moderate rebels" Obama cancels program
That's the CIA program in action. The entire intent of that program was the overthrow of the Asaad regime in Syria. The united States backed "moderate rebels", yet for some reason, the wepons and equipment ended up in Jabhat Nusra, and other AQ affiliates hands. Their trucks a light and medium weapons ended up in ISIL hands, and that equipment was used to capture Ninawa Province, Iraq and Anbar Province, Iraq in 2014.
The DOD program, called the "train and equip" program was a completely separate entity, and was supposed to identify Syrian "moderates" who were willing to fight ISIL but not Asaad.
That program was cancelled not too long ago, because just like the CIA program, the weapons and equipment for those groups was scarfed up by terrorists. The difference here being that DOD members actually cared enough to make the truth public, and the massive failure of this moronic idea was public in minutes. The CIA, DOS, and the President ALL knew the counter-asaad insurgency they have backed since 2011 was indirectly putting weapons into AQ/ANF/ISIL hands, as did the gulf states who cooperated with the US to overthrow Asaad. But they didn't care, and they continue to run the program today, with significant modifications.
Obama Backs away from CIA program to Arm rebels
Even that Moron Flynn gets it...
The DOS and CIA have always been proponents of regime change and they are still trying to achieve this end. Some DOS idiots are pissed that Obama actually backed down on this lunacy, and signed a letter saying as much here:
Diplomats urge obama to bomb Asaad.
To be continued...
quote:
As rebel-held sections of Aleppo crumbled under Russian bombing this month, the Obama administration was secretly weighing plans to rush more firepower to CIA-backed units in Syria. The proposal, which involved weapons that might help those forces defend themselves against Russian aircraft and artillery, made its way onto the agenda of a recent meeting President Obama held with his national security team. And that’s as far as it got. Neither approved nor rejected, the plan was left in a state of ambiguity that U.S. officials said reflects growing administration skepticism about escalating a covert CIA program that has trained and armed thousands of Syrian fighters over the past three years. The operation has served as the centerpiece of the U.S. strategy to press Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step aside. But U.S. officials said there are growing doubts that even an expanded version could achieve that outcome because of Moscow’s intervention. Obama, officials said, now seems inclined to leave the fate of the CIA program up to the next occupant of the White House.
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If so, Obama’s successor will inherit an array of unattractive options. Critics of the proposal to increase arms shipments warn that it would only worsen the violence in Syria without fundamentally changing the outcome. But inaction has its own risks — increasing the likelihood that Aleppo will fall, that tens of thousands of CIA-backed fighters will search for more-reliable allies, and that the United States will lose leverage over regional partners that until now have refrained from delivering more-dangerous arms to Assad’s opponents.
That's the CIA program in action. The entire intent of that program was the overthrow of the Asaad regime in Syria. The united States backed "moderate rebels", yet for some reason, the wepons and equipment ended up in Jabhat Nusra, and other AQ affiliates hands. Their trucks a light and medium weapons ended up in ISIL hands, and that equipment was used to capture Ninawa Province, Iraq and Anbar Province, Iraq in 2014.
The DOD program, called the "train and equip" program was a completely separate entity, and was supposed to identify Syrian "moderates" who were willing to fight ISIL but not Asaad.
That program was cancelled not too long ago, because just like the CIA program, the weapons and equipment for those groups was scarfed up by terrorists. The difference here being that DOD members actually cared enough to make the truth public, and the massive failure of this moronic idea was public in minutes. The CIA, DOS, and the President ALL knew the counter-asaad insurgency they have backed since 2011 was indirectly putting weapons into AQ/ANF/ISIL hands, as did the gulf states who cooperated with the US to overthrow Asaad. But they didn't care, and they continue to run the program today, with significant modifications.
Obama Backs away from CIA program to Arm rebels
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The CIA’s program to heavily arm “moderate” rebels to fighting the Syrian government, which has been ongoing since the Syrian Civil War began, was supposed to be “plan B” when the most recent ceasefire efforts in the country failed, with plans in place to throw a bunch of anti-aircraft and other arms at them to go after the Russians. It’s not happening though. Officials were hyping up the proposal during a recent meeting, which also included possible military action against Russia in Syria, but officials say the idea was “neither approved nor rejected” and just left it in limbo.
It’s not an oversight, but rather a reflection of the president’s unwillingness to continue the program himself, and a desire to leave it as an option for the next administration next year. The CIA program has been pretty unsuccessful, and the new arms weren’t seen as a likely gamechanger at any rate. As one official put it, the units are “not doing any better on the battlefield, they’re up against a more formidable adversary, and they’re increasingly dominated by extremists.” That’s not exactly a ringing endorsement, and it’s likely the lack of alternatives that has prevented it from being abandoned outright.
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The CIA, of course, has been on board with the arming from day one, and hasn’t been all that worried about the extremist links within groups like the FSA, seeing regime change as their long-term goal, and not worrying too much about how they get there. This has led to a major ideological and practical split between the CIA and Pentagon, with the later preferring more dependable factions like the Kurds, even if they aren’t necessarily willing to fight an open-ended US-backed war of regime change.
Even that Moron Flynn gets it...
The DOS and CIA have always been proponents of regime change and they are still trying to achieve this end. Some DOS idiots are pissed that Obama actually backed down on this lunacy, and signed a letter saying as much here:
Diplomats urge obama to bomb Asaad.
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1. (U) The following is a Dissent Channel message from the abovementioned Department officers to the Director of Policy Planning (S/P). 2. (SBU) We are State Department officers who have been involved in the U.S. government’s response to the Syria crisis in varying capacities over the past five years. Despite the Secretary’s efforts to deescalate the violence and forge ahead with the political track, we believe that achieving our objectives will continue to elude us if we do not include the use of military force as an option to enforce the Cessation of Hostilities (CoH) and compel the Syrian regime to abide by its terms as well as to negotiate a political solution in good faith.
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State Department officials have been pushing for years for a limited military intervention in Syria along these lines. The Central Intelligence Agency joined the department in backing airstrikes in internal administration discussions in 2012 and 2013; the Pentagon and National Security Council were opposed.
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If we are to remain committed to countering Da’esh in the Levant without committing ground forces, the best option is to protect and empower the moderate Syrian opposition.
To be continued...
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:22 pm to Champagne
quote:
Are you sure that Obama stopped US bombing in Syria and stopped arming all anti-Assad factions once "Russia got involved"? I seem to remember otherwise.
It is as Kerry said in the audio clip. The U.S. only conducted bombing missions against ISIS, and spent most of its resources assisting the Kurds who were far removed from battles with the Syrian government.
Does that mean that ALL aid to the opposition groups ceased at that point? No. But it's also pretty obvious that Obama was bowing to Iranian and Russian pressure to reduce his support to the FSA to a trickle. Obama cited the rise of opposition groups like Jabhat Fateh al-Sham as justification for his decision to end support missions for the opposition rebels, and to focus instead on the Kurdish corner of the country.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:23 pm to NC_Tigah
I don't know what to tell you either. I'm giving you widely available information, and you still refuse to believe it, even though it's very easy to check it yourself.
You are woefully ignorant on the topic of the war in Syria.
You may be well informed on other topics, but on this one, you definitely live in a Rand Paul bubble.
quote:
If anything, Obama's demand was they fight Assad, not ISIS.
You are woefully ignorant on the topic of the war in Syria.
You may be well informed on other topics, but on this one, you definitely live in a Rand Paul bubble.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:31 pm to MrCarton
CIA blakc market arms used to kill two American Contractors
In the above article, you will see this blurb:
Wonder where all those weapons went?
Timber Sycamore
That's just one example of where those guns went. The truth is that once the "good" rebels get into Syria, they often turn over those weapons to "bad" rebels in exchange for safe passage, or they simply join forces with them. You can read about that here: Continued..
In the above article, you will see this blurb:
quote:
The training program, which in 2013 began directly arming the rebels under the code name Timber Sycamore, is run by the C.I.A. and several Arab intelligence services and aimed at building up forces opposing President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. The United States and Saudi Arabia are the biggest contributors, with the Saudis contributing both weapons and large sums of money, and with C.I.A. paramilitary operatives taking the lead in training the rebels to use Kalashnikovs, mortars, antitank guided missiles and other weapons.
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Many, if not most, of the rebel groups fighting the Syrian government are jihadist and few have any serious objection to Al-Nusra participating in their operations, especially given that Al-Nusra has proven to be one of the most effective groups on the battlefield. If Al-Sham and fellow Sunni jihadists prevail over Syrian government forces, a genocide will likely commence against religious minorities in Syria, starting with the Alawites and moving on to other Shiites. From the Atlantic Council: Fateh al-Sham’s support extends beyond the immediate political and military opposition. Roshd Virtual University in Istanbul, Turkey offered 100 scholarships to the children of the fighters who participated in Aleppo’s battle. The opposition’s desperation to change the balance of power in Syria has made them embrace Fateh al-Sham and turn a blind eye to the fact that it was until recently the Nusra Front, an internationally designated terrorist group with ties to al-Qaeda. According the Syria analyst Charles Lister, there is a significant subsection of the Syrian opposition that does not oppose Fateh al-Sham’s participation in Aleppo related military operations. Moreover, Lister said that opposition forces fighting in Aleppo received for the first time American weapons that are normally designated for forces fighting the Islamic State (ISIS). The opposition’s takeaway is that the United States does not object to preserving the balance on the ground with the Syrian regime, even if doing so indirectly bolsters Fateh al-Sham.
Wonder where all those weapons went?
Timber Sycamore
quote:
Timber Sycamore is run by the Military Operations Command (MOC) in Amman[6] and provides Kalashnikov assault rifles, mortars, rocket-propelled grenades, anti-tank guided missiles, night vision goggles, pickup trucks, and other weapons to prospective Syrian rebel forces. Many of the weapons are purchased in the Balkans or other locations in Eastern Europe, and then routed to Syrian rebel forces and training camps by Jordanian security services. CIA paramilitary operatives then train Syrian rebels in use of the weaponry.[1][10][6] According to The Daily Beast there are approximately 50 vetted rebel groups fighting in Syria that have received weapons or training through the program since late 2012,[5] though the exact number is not known.[11] According to American officials, the program has been highly effective, training and equipping thousands US-backed fighters to make substantial battlefield gains.[2][12] American officials state that the program began to lose effectiveness after Russia intervened militarily in the civil war.[12] Timber Sycamore is distinct from another, discontinued Pentagon program established to train Syrian rebel forces to fight against ISIS.[1][13][2] The program remains classified,[7] and many details about the program remain unknown, including the total amount of support, the range of weapons transferred, the depth of training provided, the types of US trainers involved, and the exact rebel groups being supported.[11] However, The Canberra Times reported that two thousand tons of Soviet era weapons were delivered to rebels as recently as April 2016.[9] Black market[edit] The port in Aqaba, Jordan is an important route for Timber Sycamore weaponry entering Syria. Jordanian intelligence arms sales[edit] According to American and Jordanian officials, weapons shipped into Jordan by the CIA and Saudi Arabia were routinely stolen by Jordanian intelligence officials in the General Intelligence Directorate (Jordan) and sold on the black market.[14][15] The magnitude of the theft amounted to millions of dollars, and FBI officials state that some of the stolen weapons were later used to kill two American contractors, two Jordanians and one South African at a police training station in Jordan.[1][14] Arms received via Timber Sycamore have flooded Middle Eastern black markets with heavy weaponry.[1][14][15] Jordanian officials state that Jordanian intelligence officers who stole the program's weapons used the profits to purchase luxury items, with knowledge of superior officers.[15] The thefts were halted after months of complaints by the American and Saudi governments, the program's main backers.[1] According to Jordanian officials, several intelligence officers were fired, but their profits were not confiscated.[15] (In Jordan, the General Intelligence Directorate is second only to the monarchy in power and prestige.[16]) Jordan's minister for state and media affairs Mohammad Al-Momani stated that the allegations were incorrect.[16] Regional trafficking and ISIS[edit] Prior to the Syrian Civil War, southern Syria and northern Jordan were a conduit for other smuggling operations.[6] The advent of the war transformed the region into a center for smuggling weapons, and the more formal support provided by Timber Sycamore only intensified the scale of smuggling operations on the border.[6] Major smuggling centers include bazaars established at Ma'an in southern Jordan, Sabah near Amman, and in the Jordan River Valley.[16] An investigation by journalists Phil Sands and Suha Maayeh revealed that rebels supplied with weapons from the Amman MOC sold a portion of them to local arms dealers, often to raise cash to pay additional fighters.[6] Some MOC-supplied weapons were sold to Bedouin traders referred to locally as "The Birds" in Lejat, a volcanic plain northeast of Daraa, Syria. According to rebel forces, the Bedouins would then trade the weapons to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, who would place orders using the encrypted WhatsApp messaging service.[6] Two rebel commanders, and a UK weapons monitoring organization, maintain that MOC-supplied weapons have made their way to Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant forces.[6]
That's just one example of where those guns went. The truth is that once the "good" rebels get into Syria, they often turn over those weapons to "bad" rebels in exchange for safe passage, or they simply join forces with them. You can read about that here: Continued..
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:31 pm to MrCarton
CIA backed groups scarfed up by ANF and other terrorist groups
[quote]Hassan Hassan, co-author (with The Daily Beast’s Michael Weiss) of ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror, suggested that rebel gains in Idlib in April 2015 showcased the symmetries between CIA-backed forces and Nusra when he attributed the rebels’ successes to suicide bombers (frequently deployed by Nusra and other jihadists) and “American anti-tank TOW missiles.” In southern Syria, the CIA-backed Southern Front fought alongside Nusra in the campaign to take the city of Deraa in June 2015. CIA-backed groups in northwestern Syria publicly acknowledge their relationship with the al Qaeda affiliate.
Or here:
Rebranded AQ cell receiving US weapons.
I guess you believe Joe biden when he says this was all KSA and Qatar's fault?
Joe Biden "Our problem is our allies!"
What a joke.
What about here? You think this was an isolated incident?
US DOD admits weapons and equipment given to ANF intermediary.
[quote]Hassan Hassan, co-author (with The Daily Beast’s Michael Weiss) of ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror, suggested that rebel gains in Idlib in April 2015 showcased the symmetries between CIA-backed forces and Nusra when he attributed the rebels’ successes to suicide bombers (frequently deployed by Nusra and other jihadists) and “American anti-tank TOW missiles.” In southern Syria, the CIA-backed Southern Front fought alongside Nusra in the campaign to take the city of Deraa in June 2015. CIA-backed groups in northwestern Syria publicly acknowledge their relationship with the al Qaeda affiliate.
Or here:
Rebranded AQ cell receiving US weapons.
I guess you believe Joe biden when he says this was all KSA and Qatar's fault?
Joe Biden "Our problem is our allies!"
What a joke.
What about here? You think this was an isolated incident?
US DOD admits weapons and equipment given to ANF intermediary.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:32 pm to MrCarton
Your post is pretty much common knowledge so you have to wonder why doc is spreading misinformation and mocking people that bring up the truth. He is either grossly misinformed or deliberately lying. It's most definitely the latter just can't figure out why.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:33 pm to Doc Fenton
quote:Oh no.
I'm getting tired of dropping link after link attesting to the truth about this.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
If anything, Obama's demand was they fight Assad, not ISIS.
The facts:
obama had two programs. One CIA, called Timber sycamore (or at least part of it was). the goal of the CIA operation was to overthrow Asaad, and had nothing to do with ISIL. almost all of these groups were scarfed up by ANF and equipment from this training program ended up in Iraq and used by ISIL to take Mosul and Ninawa province.
The second program was the DOD Train and Equip program, it was supposed to be counter-ISIL, but not Counter-Asaaad. It failed miserably, and many of the weapons provided to the "resistance fighters" ended up in ANF hands.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:37 pm to bencoleman
quote:
If you have to claim to be a conservative you aren't a conservative
Nah, that's not in the rules. I'm conservative in that I hold values that are conservative, and if you claim otherwise, feel free to offer a single leftist position I hold. You can't do it. You don't possess what it takes to go toe to toe with someone who doesn't agree with you 100%, so you do what the batshit left does and dismiss people like me as liberal to make yourself feel better.
In Brooklyn, I get called a Trump supporter all the time by the left's version of hacks like you. Weak people who are too emotionally invested in their "team" to actually think.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:39 pm to bencoleman
quote:
Your post is pretty much common knowledge so you have to wonder why doc is spreading misinformation and mocking people that bring up the truth. He is either grossly misinformed or deliberately lying. It's most definitely the latter just can't figure out why.
I have no idea. He is playing this game where he pretends like we are arguing that Obama "created ISIL" and directly sponsors their activity, when in fact we are saying that his policies led US men, weapons and equipment being used by ANF and other terrorists groups to overthrow Asaad, and for a time, by ISIL to overthrow Mosul.
The president knew that the CIA programs were sponsoring terrorist groups, and he chose to continue them in spite of that fact, because he wants to overthrow Asaad. He admitted that this was the case when he denied the CIA's most recent request to continue arming terrorists.
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:46 pm to MrCarton
In 10 years the facts will come out for all to see. Obama was a fricking turd who should have his Nobel prize revoked and burned because he knowingly sponsored terrorism in syria to overthrow the asaad regime and perpetuated a brutal years long civil war while pretending that he was "helping the syrian people".
Meanwhile his marxist inspired state department claims that "military solutions aren't the answer" while they beg the president to bomb Asaads military and work with the CIA to push even more arms into the country, arms they know with certainty will be scarfed up by ANF and other terrorist groups.
frick them all.
p.s.
"They hate us for our freedoms"
-NEOCONS
Meanwhile his marxist inspired state department claims that "military solutions aren't the answer" while they beg the president to bomb Asaads military and work with the CIA to push even more arms into the country, arms they know with certainty will be scarfed up by ANF and other terrorist groups.
frick them all.
p.s.
"They hate us for our freedoms"
-NEOCONS
This post was edited on 1/2/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:54 pm to MrCarton
You and I differ politically but one thing that isn't debatable is the truth and certain posters deliberately mislead or outright lie about issues and I just don't understand why.
Ballslicker you are right there is this grand scheme afoot to label you as liberal. The truth is in your post history.
Ballslicker you are right there is this grand scheme afoot to label you as liberal. The truth is in your post history.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:58 pm to ballscaster
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Would you (Dan) rather believe CBS? Or how about BSNBC...they're good about splicing audio, just ask George Zimmerman. Maybe Brian Williams can explain why this site is fake news too?
quote:
^^^ This is another reason why.
LOL! You might want to re-read what I was getting at with my post...you said that you needed a legitimate news source to believe the story in the OP so I made my post questioning what you meant by that as in your "go to" sources aren't terribly trustworthy either.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 1:58 pm to bencoleman
quote:
You and I differ politically but one thing that isn't debatable is the truth and certain posters deliberately mislead or outright lie about issues and I just don't understand why.
There are a lot of stupid conspiracies about ISIL and Syria and it seems like anyone who points out that Obama is responsible for arming terrorists is being accused of believing these stupid conspiracies.
Classic trick of the dishonest.
I don't know about ballscaster, I haven't seen him shilling like some of these other people. Maybe he is just confused.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:01 pm to MrCarton
quote:Exactly.
The facts:
obama had two programs. One CIA, called Timber sycamore (or at least part of it was). the goal of the CIA operation was to overthrow Asaad, and had nothing to do with ISIL. almost all of these groups were scarfed up by ANF and equipment from this training program ended up in Iraq and used by ISIL to take Mosul and Ninawa province.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:07 pm to AjaxFury
quote:
Perfectly stated company line response right there. This is a smart man.
Treating it like a company email. :Golf clap:
He knows the NSA is watching
When has Obama or his staff ever said he made a bad decision?
Give me a break. Presidents sometimes make really bad decisions and / or have bad staff that influence them to making these decisions. That doesn't mean that Obama has a hard-on for ISIS.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:11 pm to SUB
quote:
That doesn't mean that Obama has a hard-on for ISIS.
It just means he cared less about sponsoring ISIL than he did about overthrowing Asaad. Which makes him a piece of shite.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:12 pm to MrCarton
Just like with respect to Israel, you are still utterly oblivious with respect to Islam and with respect to the threat emanating from Islam.
Other than it being incredibly stupid for us to be involved in arming and fighting wars on the behalf of Muslims, I’m glad the carnage took place in Syria. My only regret is it wasn’t any bloodier than it was and it didn’t last any longer. As I love it when Muslims fight and kill each other, the more the better. Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t like it when Muslims kill non-Muslim infidels, but that is due primarily to the fact that our political elites on both sides of the political aisles don’t have the first freaking clue about Islam or our Islamic enemies. As like lunatics, they believe Islam for the most part is a so-called RELIGION OF PEACE.
In any event, we should not waste time, American lives, and money targeting and eradicating ISIS because first of all ISIS is not responsible for Islamic terrorist attacks that manifests here in America and in Europe, as those Islamic terrorist attacks are the fault of the politicians that have been importing enemy Muslim invaders into our respective non-Muslim infidel countries as fast as they possibly can like traitors to kill, maim, and conquer us from within for years, and also because eradicating ISIS will only empower the Shi’a ruling Mullahs of Iran.
What we should do instead is evacuate all the non-Muslim infidels that live in the Islamic totalitarian world and relocate them to Europe as refugees, and at the same time expel all the enemy Muslim invaders that have been foolishly imported into our respective non-Muslim infidel countries by our incompetent politicians like idiots to kill, maim, and conquer us from within as fast as possible back to the Islamic totalitarian world to separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another. Finally, we should impose an international quarantine and an international embargo on the Islamic totalitarian world to make it utterly impossible for them to be able to continue to wage jihad against all of us non-Muslim infidels and until such time as they eradicate Islam on their own from within their own society.
It’s not rocket science, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is to make itself and its followers supreme throughout the world by conquering all non-Muslim infidels in the world via a jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia. Thus, common sense, as opposed to political correctness, dictates that we must separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another until Islam has been fully eradicated on their own from within their own society.
Other than it being incredibly stupid for us to be involved in arming and fighting wars on the behalf of Muslims, I’m glad the carnage took place in Syria. My only regret is it wasn’t any bloodier than it was and it didn’t last any longer. As I love it when Muslims fight and kill each other, the more the better. Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t like it when Muslims kill non-Muslim infidels, but that is due primarily to the fact that our political elites on both sides of the political aisles don’t have the first freaking clue about Islam or our Islamic enemies. As like lunatics, they believe Islam for the most part is a so-called RELIGION OF PEACE.
In any event, we should not waste time, American lives, and money targeting and eradicating ISIS because first of all ISIS is not responsible for Islamic terrorist attacks that manifests here in America and in Europe, as those Islamic terrorist attacks are the fault of the politicians that have been importing enemy Muslim invaders into our respective non-Muslim infidel countries as fast as they possibly can like traitors to kill, maim, and conquer us from within for years, and also because eradicating ISIS will only empower the Shi’a ruling Mullahs of Iran.
What we should do instead is evacuate all the non-Muslim infidels that live in the Islamic totalitarian world and relocate them to Europe as refugees, and at the same time expel all the enemy Muslim invaders that have been foolishly imported into our respective non-Muslim infidel countries by our incompetent politicians like idiots to kill, maim, and conquer us from within as fast as possible back to the Islamic totalitarian world to separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another. Finally, we should impose an international quarantine and an international embargo on the Islamic totalitarian world to make it utterly impossible for them to be able to continue to wage jihad against all of us non-Muslim infidels and until such time as they eradicate Islam on their own from within their own society.
It’s not rocket science, the sole fundamental purpose of Islam is to make itself and its followers supreme throughout the world by conquering all non-Muslim infidels in the world via a jihad and the eventual imposition of Sharia. Thus, common sense, as opposed to political correctness, dictates that we must separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another until Islam has been fully eradicated on their own from within their own society.
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:13 pm to SUB
quote:
When has Obama or his staff ever said he made a bad decision?
Oh. I agree!
Obama & his administration are most likely batting 1.000 & I don't question it one bit. We are all human after all & just doing our best to make the world a better place
Posted on 1/2/17 at 2:13 pm to Space Cowboy
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