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La.'s crappy roads cost citizens billions, but what do we do with our money?

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36034 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:07 am
Instead we give Film Companies 180 million dollars a year a drop from 200 plus million.

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In total, deteriorating and congested roads cost the state $6.5 billion each year, the study notes. The TRIP report precedes this spring’s upcoming legislative session, during which lawmakers are expected to debate increasing the state’s gasoline tax to pay for infrastructure improvements.


We all know the state wants to raise the gasoline tax, and they have their propaganda machine running full blast. I don't disagree that we don't need to improve our highways, I am just leery of those who are responsible to do the rebuilding.

The same article goes on to say the state needs an extra 700 million a year to fund necessary projects. Well, I know where you can find 25% of that really fast.

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State officials on a task force dedicated to transportation and infrastructure studied the state’s system, concluding earlier this year that Louisiana needs an additional $700 million per year for roads, bridges, ports and other projects.


Let's stop the hemorrhaging, let's invest in highways, and bridges and real infrastructure and quit giving away tax credits to businesses hoping to create jobs.

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In its report on the study, TRIP highlights the importance of strong infrastructure for Louisiana’s bustling agricultural, natural resources and manufacturing industries, as well as its tourism sector. The state risks losing out on new business and economic opportunities because of aging roads and heavy traffic congestion, the think tank warns


Let's get out of the business of picking winners and losers, and start providing for a citizens necessary roads and bridges.

LINK
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17480 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:20 am to
Alternative idea would be to sell naming rights to the biggest pot holes in New Orleans...I could tell my mechanic that my suspension is shot thanks to the Preperation H pothole.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:21 am to
just so happens that they're talking about DOTD expenditure breakdowns at the legislature right now: LINK

slides on this page with a bunch of detail: LINK

DOTD's here: slides 7 most useful, also 14-17

what was the talking point about 11% going towards roads? it looks like total bullshite
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59651 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I could tell my mechanic that my suspension is shot thanks to the Preperation H pothole.



everyone needs to just start suing the state for repairs due to shitty roads.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:23 am to
DOTD has an already inflated budget. They do less with more money than anymore on a consistent basis.

A gasoline tax? Gas is already 10-15 cents higher than Houston.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34662 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:26 am to
Weren't they giving a lot of money to the DMV, before they raised license fees last year?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51611 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:27 am to
Their organization diagram is... odd (slide 3).
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10177 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:28 am to
I live in one of the most rural parishes in the state, which means we cut more timber than most parishes. The log trucks tear our roads to shite but the tax dollars they pay on fuel never come back to the parish to fix our roads.

Pretty much nation wide we have the worst politicians in office than at any point in our history. Our taxes are high as they have ever been and we don't get shite for it.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
51611 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:29 am to
Slide 8 should be titled "Doing Less With More"
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:30 am to
Put a jar in ways and means. Every time Major Tibaut refers to the "fiscal session" as a "physical session" or a "fiscal note" as a "physical note" he has to put a dollar in the jar. Result state budget surplus. If you make it apply to the entire legislature the national debt will be paid off by 2021.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:17 am
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:31 am to
The public just doesn't know. The gas tax for roads passed in the 80's was for roads only[state roads,not local]. The Democrats slowly moved that tax to inner city Democratic projects such as buses, buildings, gov't employees[campaign workers], railroads, and city transportation. They vote Dem. so they get the money for Dem's inner city projects. It should all go to State roads only, but it doesn't.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36034 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:34 am to
Are they saying only 11% of their budget goes to road construction?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Are they saying only 11% of their budget goes to road construction?


I never figured out where that figure came from, but that is certainly the implication
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9147 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:35 am to
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It should all go to State roads only, but it doesn't.


We should make them fix this issue before we let them raise the tax.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:41 am to
So, 2.4% of their budget goes to state highways.
According to slide 8.
Sounds about right.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:45 am to
i highly doubt that state highways aren't a part of the capital outlay roads/bridges component simply because a minimum of 2.4% is set aside for some of them.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27513 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:45 am to
A few things

A) Yes the DOTD is poorly mismanaged
B) When you build roads on soils that have the consistency of coffee grounds, the roads do not have all that good of a shelf life
C)The misuse of the gasoline tax for decades
D) Poor planning on the road infrastructure and politics....you have no idea the level of incompetence that comes into play
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:47 am to
check out the employee-to-road miles ratio compared to other states on slide 35
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67083 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:55 am to
That's a pretty shocking statistic, tbh.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

The public just doesn't know. The gas tax for roads passed in the 80's was for roads only[state roads,not local]. The Democrats slowly moved that tax to inner city Democratic projects such as buses, buildings, gov't employees[campaign workers], railroads, and city transportation. They vote Dem. so they get the money for Dem's inner city projects. It should all go to State roads only, but it doesn't.



What did you guys do with all the surplus federal funds from Hurricane Katrina? I figured you guys would of used the money to improve your states infrastructure.
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