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re: Kristi Noem's VP Odds Crash After Dog Killing Revelation

Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:53 pm to
You're not thinking like a farmer/rancher, especially one 20 years ago. Dogs are tools to do the job. In this case it's a bird dog that is unruly and kills chickens. You put it down and get a different one.

The entire country has been watching Yellowstone the last several years and still doesn't understand what ranch life is like. It's amazing to me.

Trust me, people in South Dakota are reading this stuff, shrugging their shoulders and saying "yeah, so, you put the dog down."
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49476 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:56 pm to
When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me.” Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime.”
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3270 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:58 pm to
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You're not thinking like a farmer/rancher, especially one 20 years ago.


Admittedly, this is true. I am thinking as an owner of 2 dogs today, not a rancher 20 years ago. And since she chose, for whatever reason, to reveal this today, given where we are and how people think... it doesn't play very well any more.

Do animals on farms routinely get put down for whatever reason? Yes. Do we routinely announce it as if we are proud of ourselves for doing it? Hell no. That's just stupid.

Just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions....
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8595 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:02 pm to
I said I can understand how urban Americans are reacting to this story. I actually get it. What they don't get, or refuse to understand, is that life is just different for farmers and ranchers. It's a cultural difference that, dare I say, they're not being very tolerant of those cultural differences.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:08 pm to
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You're not thinking like a farmer/rancher, especially one 20 years ago.


Neither was Noem.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:09 pm to
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A statute that bolsters the defense that out of control dogs on farms can and shall be put down, dumbass


Did you even read the statute you fricking retard?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:11 pm to
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How is it different?


For starters, livestock versus poultry...

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The guy couldn't control his own dogs...


Were his horses not on his property?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49476 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:15 pm to
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For starters, livestock versus poultry...



The law says domestic animals of which both livestock and poultry are a part.

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Were his horses not on his property?


Explain how this is material to his controlling or training his dogs.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35420 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:20 pm to
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You're not thinking like a farmer/rancher, especially one 20 years ago
There is zero difference in ranch life today vs 2004.
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Dogs are tools to do the job. In this case it's a bird dog that is unruly and kills chickens.
It wasn't a trained working dog. It was a house pet that she thought she could take on a hunt because it was a certain breed. This idiot thought it would somehow learn just by being around other older hunting dogs. And you are defending that.

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Trust me, people in South Dakota are reading this stuff, shrugging their shoulders and saying "yeah, so, you put the dog down."
I doubt it. They probably know that she is a shitty dog owner. I bet they know that goats are smelly too.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:35 pm to
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The law says domestic animals of which both livestock and poultry are a part.


Which law? The Virginia statute that was posted earlier?

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Explain how this is material to his controlling or training his dogs.


You don't know the difference between a dog being on your property or your neighbor's?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47935 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:36 pm to
Displaced vs Bucky- best tag team breakup since the Rockers
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49476 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:40 pm to
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Which law? The Virginia statute that was posted earlier?



WI law that I posted much earlier. I don't recall seeing the VA law in this thread.

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You don't know the difference between a dog being on your property or your neighbor's?


The guy in question owned both the dogs and the horse. So, again, why does it matter? He obviously did not control nor train his dogs properly if they mauled his horse.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 7:43 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49476 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Displaced vs Bucky- best tag team breakup since the Rockers


This might be news to a cementhead like yourself, but people don't always agree on 100% of things even if they desire the same end result.

Only Cult45 is in lockstep.

Frankly, it's amazing how you clowns never disagree on anything.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 pm to
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WI law


OK.

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The guy in question owned both the dogs and the horse. So, again, why does it matter? He obviously did not control nor train his dogs properly if they mauled his horse.


Is there a law against your dogs running around your property eating all the chickens they can eat?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:20 pm to
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This might be news to a cementhead like yourself, but people don't always agree on 100% of things even if they desire the same end result.

Only Cult45 is in lockstep.

Frankly, it's amazing how you clowns never disagree on anything.


This blows their fricking minds.

I'm pretty sure I've argued with just about everyone on this board wotth arguing with.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12969 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:23 pm to
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Did you even read the statute


In fact I did. Did you?
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3270 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:30 pm to
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I'm pretty sure I've argued with just about everyone on this board wotth arguing with.


Hell, sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing. Admit it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:31 pm to
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In fact I did. Did you?


Can you quote the part that says this is common?

If you can, that's one down and 49 to go.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72075 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Hell, sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing. Admit it.


I'd never deny that.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17921 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

ell, sometimes you argue just for the sake of arguing. Admit it

I certainly do. I'll argue a position I at least mostly believe, but yeah - it can be sport at times.
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