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re: Khalid Sheik Mohammed in his own words update book review

Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:08 pm to
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But it is not that the Bushies got played. They just didn't GAF what was good for the US.


Maybe so. I don't know for sure, but the company they keep is not an indicator of good character.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:11 pm to
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Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:15 pm to
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It's the Iraq War that was an unnecessary waste of young lives and resources.


It worked out great for Israel, the Defense Industry and Dick Cheney.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:24 pm to
The problem we have is the Islamic totalitarian world collectively is waging a jihad, which is a civilizational religious holy war waged preemptively by ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD without provocation and via any and all means, both violent and non-violent, at their disposal in the cause of Allah to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme throughout the world via the eventual imposition of Sharia, which is draconian Islamic totalitarian law, i.e., the “will of Allah”.

Thus, since the entire Islamic totalitarian world collectively is waging a civilizational religious holy war preemptively and without provocation against all non-Muslim infidels in the world to ultimately make Islam and its followers supreme throughout the world, then the non-Muslim infidel world, i.e., Western Christian-Judeo-Civilization, must react collectively to save ourselves and our civilization by expelling all the enemy Muslim invaders from our respective non-Muslim infidel countries to separate our two fully incompatible societies from one another ASAP. At the same time, we need to evacuate all the non-Muslim infidels still currently living in the Islamic totalitarian world today and relocate them to Europe as refugees. Then finally, we must isolate the Islamic totalitarian world via the imposition of an international quarantine and an international embargo to make it impossible for them to be able to continue to wage jihad against all of us non-Muslim infidels and until such time as they eradicate Islam on their own from within their own society.

Thus, going to war in Iraq again to eradicate ISIS is the absolute wrong thing to do since we are not at war with only a tiny subset of so-called RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS that misunderstand the beautiful RELIGION OF PEACE, but with all Muslims in the world instead.

In other words, we are in the midst of a “clash of civilizations”, with their Islamic Totalitarian Civilization, on the one hand, and our Western Christian-Judeo Civilization, on the other hand, and it’s a fight to the finish. When all is said and done, only one of our two fully incompatible societies will prevail.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:27 pm to
Not really, as it didn't stop the perpetual global jihad the Islamic totalitarian world has been waging perpetually for the past 1400 years nonstop in which an estimated 270 million non-Muslim people have been brutally murdered in cold-blood by Muslims.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
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Not really, as it didn't stop the perpetual global jihad the Islamic totalitarian world has been waging perpetually for the past 1400 years nonstop in which an estimated 270 million non-Muslim people have been brutally murdered in cold-blood by Muslims.



rofl

you are a joke.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
You're dead on. What the average American can't rap their head around is that their peaceful and friendly Muslim neighbor will vote for sharia when they have the numbers to do so.

Muslims are basically waging a long war that our liberals and progressives are enabling.

Islam, in any context, is not compatible with Western society. They are just bidding their time in a generational war.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:39 pm to
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You're dead on. What the average American can't rap their head around is that their peaceful and friendly Muslim neighbor will vote for sharia when they have the numbers to do so.

Muslims are basically waging a long war that our liberals and progressives are enabling.

Islam, in any context, is not compatible with Western society. They are just bidding their time in a generational war.



oh look, the punchline

you guys are worse than jew conspiracy guys.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:43 pm to
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you guys are worse than jew conspiracy guys.


you rang?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:52 pm to
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you rang?

Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 4:57 pm to
Tell me what I'm wrong on? I'll wait....
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:04 pm to
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Clinton & Berger had always viewed terrorism under the guise of law enforcement. Just like the WTC attack in 1993. If anything, the expected some type of covert retaliation because they technically weren't representing a nation, only a group. They didn't foresee a full scale invasion of a country (or two). They were used to Clinton using the FBI in these matters.






So you think the terrorists view the united states as a big democrat and republican cat fight? "Oh look Osama, those pussy liberals are in charge! We can do whatever we want now because those big ole tough meanie head republicans aren't around to smash us with their patriot hammers of morality!"

Cmon dude. They deliberately went after the biggest and most visible targets in the world. You are trying to tell me they thought we would shoot a few cruise missiles at a tent. That is ridiculous. What would the end-game for strategy possible be? "Ok Osama, it worked that time, let's send 42,000,000,000 more planes and we will have wiped out the entire population!".



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It wasn't about killing the most people, it was about attacking the symbols of what they view as their oppression. Our government & economic power. That's why they attacked the WTC in 1993, to them it was a symbol of our economic global influence. LINK Atta wanted to fly into a nuclear plant in NY to try & spread radiation & kill as many people possible. Senior al Queda refused his preference. Their grandiose plan, however, was to ten planes into the targets we know of & the nuclear plants. I don't think we know the other targets. KSM planned to kill everyone on the 10th plane, land it, and then give a press conference blaming this on the U.S. hand in the Israel/Palestine issue.


This is really fricking frustrating because I feel like I am being lectured on shite that has nothing to do with the point of contention. I don't need a guide book for the official 9-11 narrative or a recap of GWBs foreign policy chops.

Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:05 pm to
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Tell me what I'm wrong on?



Well first off, you have the conspiracy wrong. It's the Jewish Zionist Bankers who are trying to kill the gentiles. Let's just get that straight right now.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:20 pm to
Just want I thought. You have no answer. As for the politics of it, which side wants more of them here?
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
7140 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:25 pm to
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Cmon dude. They deliberately went after the biggest and most visible targets in the world. You are trying to tell me they thought we would shoot a few cruise missiles at a tent. That is ridiculous. What would the end-game for strategy possible be? "Ok Osama, it worked that time, let's send 42,000,000,000 more planes and we will have wiped out the entire population!".


Are you an engineer? Have you ever worked on projects with Middle Eastern foreign students?

I understand and hate that this sounds so incredibly racist, but in my experience Middle Eastern students are the laziest, dumbest, and most incredibly frustrating students to work with or to teach. And those that come from money expect to just buy grades.

Now some have been very nice people, but still shite engineers.

This is the main reason why I disagree with a lot of the people who are saying, "Al Qaeda are too smart for that." because in my experience the "best and brightest" that get sent here are from Mensa material.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:32 pm to
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Are you an engineer? Have you ever worked on projects with Middle Eastern foreign students?

I understand and hate that this sounds so incredibly racist, but in my experience Middle Eastern students are the laziest, dumbest, and most incredibly frustrating students to work with or to teach. And those that come from money expect to just buy grades.

Now some have been very nice people, but still shite engineers.



I am a former Army Green Beret. I lived and operated in the Arab world and Afghanistan extensively. I speak Iraq, Syrian/Lebanese, and some Egyptian at a comfortable conversational level if not better. I am not an engineer.

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This is the main reason why I disagree with a lot of the people who are saying, "Al Qaeda are too smart for that." because in my experience the "best and brightest" that get sent here are from Mensa material.



I can tell you that most of the lower tiers of AQ are drawn from destitute populations, but the big time movers and shakers are not stupid. Far from it. Nobody said these guys are MENSA smart, though I am sure some are. what they are is incredibly well-studied on how to achieve their goals and relentlessly dedicated.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 5:33 pm to
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As for the politics of it, which side wants more of them here?


Irrelevant.

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Just want I thought. You have no answer.



ok
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:00 pm to
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oh look, the punchline

you guys are worse than jew conspiracy guys.


You fricking dumb shite


The subject of this thread said exactly that. They will infiltrate and breed and when they get enough numbers they will ask for more.

All they have to do is get to 10% of the population and continue voting dem and the fricking Democrat party will carve out sharia enclaves for them. Anybody who is not blind can see Europe and see that we are just a little behind the same curve.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:06 pm to
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You fricking dumb shite


The subject of this thread said exactly that. They will infiltrate and breed and when they get enough numbers they will ask for more.

All they have to do is get to 10% of the population and continue voting dem and the fricking Democrat party will carve out sharia enclaves for them. Anybody who is not blind can see Europe and see that we are just a little behind the same curve.



Oh shite. Thanks for the heads up dude!


ETA: If you hear of any more Jew...errr muslim conspiracies please let me know.
This post was edited on 11/29/16 at 6:12 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72938 posts
Posted on 11/29/16 at 6:31 pm to
The war is just beginning. The next phase of operations will be fought on American soil.
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