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re: Kerry: We Must 'Put Real Islam Out There'

Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:06 am to
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:06 am to
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People didn't take shite from people in the Old Testament.


Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:08 am to
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Every time this idiot opens his mouth,
I'm pretty sure his brain has fallen into his chin.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139921 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:09 am to
I think some pacifists are fine with the last part of my post. I didn't say all, many or lots.

There was a bit of hyperbole and sarcasm there too. Sorry that wasn't clear.

I'm sure their goal is to acquire weapons of mass destruction. It will make their end game much easier. Of course, if they do that, then the War on Islam will be real. None of this kinda war stuff.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:10 am to
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In what country would I find real Islam?
USA. Bay Ridge, Brooklyn. Take a stroll through that neighborhood if you care to be educated.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:11 am to
So real Islam is the westernized American Islam? Not the Islam found anywhere in the Moslem world? Nice.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:12 am to
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So real Islam is the westernized American Islam? Not the Islam found anywhere in the Moslem world? Nice.
That was a quick walk.

You probably should learn a little more before yapping anymore about a subject about which you obviously know nothing.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31461 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:14 am to
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I mean, do you want to be associated with WBC? Do they represent your views?


without entering the other aspects of this debate, are YOU frickING KIDDING ME THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP WESTBORO??? For the love of all things sacred. Please make it stop.

It has forty (40) members. Forty. And has NOTHING to do with Christianity.

It is a money-making scheme of a totally different ilk than even HPC (lol).

LINK i have no idea what the source of that is, but maybe this sheds some more light LINK


in any event, this is all widely known and yet i keep hearing this idiotic example raised. please. stop.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:15 am to
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You probably should learn a little more before yapping anymore about a subject about which you obviously know nothing.

I asked a question, you answered it. Now I'm continuing to talk about the subject, based on your fricking answer. What is wrong with you?
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:16 am to
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What is "real Islam"?


The "real" Islam is the 75% of American Muslims who don't have a favorable opinion of jihad. Unfortunately, the 75% are afraid of the remaining 25% who DO think jihad is just hunkydory.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:18 am to
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The "real" Islam is the 75% of American Muslims who don't have a favorable opinion of jihad.
So about 1% of Muslims worldwide follow real Islam. Damn.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:21 am to
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Not only is there different sects of Islam
And there are different sects of Christianity as well. It would have been just as stupid for Kerry to say "we must put the real Christianity out there"
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:21 am to
There is a very large country in Europe led by a government comprised entirely of people who identify as Orthodox Christians who seem to be quite eager to deliver "humanitarian aid" to a country to the southwest that happens to have a lot of Jews.

But I'm sure this is different.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:22 am to
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without entering the other aspects of this debate, are YOU frickING KIDDING ME THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP WESTBORO??? For the love of all things sacred. Please make it stop.

It has forty (40) members. Forty. And has NOTHING to do with Christianity.

It is a money-making scheme of a totally different ilk than even HPC (lol).

LINK i have no idea what the source of that is, but maybe this sheds some more light LINK


in any event, this is all widely known and yet i keep hearing this idiotic example raised. please. stop.

I think its valid, as their viewpoints are fricking whacko. And represent a minority viewpoint. And ISIS is a scam too.

What about pentacolism? do they represent your views?

what about Trinity United Church of Christ (rev wright 's church)? Does that represent christianity?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58566 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:23 am to
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75% of American Muslims who don't have a favorable opinion of jihad.


Cite?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:26 am to
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I asked a question, you answered it. Now I'm continuing to talk about the subject,
You shouldn't. Your answer was ignorant. You are eager to paint a group with a broad brush based on an extremely small piece of its population. Obviously I won't deny that different groups at different times cause different amounts of trouble.

How many Muslims do you know personally? I know a few. Not many, but a few. I even dated a half Jew half Muslim woman once.

Trust me. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31461 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:27 am to
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I think its valid


i'm sure you do, but that doesn't make it so. what if i painted golden arches on a piece of construction paper and sold dog shite in my front yard under the sign, would that make me a McDonald's?

Citing the acts of 40 inbred people who have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity or religion is about as absurd as that example.

And regarding your other examples, fine. As I noted, my comment was only about WBC. Your other points may fall on other grounds, but I don't really care. I'm just sick of the WBC bullshite.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57867 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:30 am to
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Just like Christianity and the Bible.



That's correct. Or how two different lawyers interpret the same law differently.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:32 am to
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in any event, this is all widely known and yet i keep hearing this idiotic example raised. please. stop.
It is incumbent on anyone who wants the rest of the world to stop citing this example to stop hastily generalizing other groups themselves.

As long as you associate fringe Islamic groups with the religion those groups claim as their own, people will do the same to you regarding Christianity, whether you practice or not. And it is fair.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:33 am to
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You are eager to paint a group with a broad brush based on an extremely small piece of its population.
No, I'm eager to found out what real Islam is, and how prevalent it is. What % of Muslims follow real Islam?
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How many Muslims do you know personally? I know a few. Not many, but a few. I even dated a half Jew half Muslim woman once.



I know dozens, if not hundreds, of Muslims. I've dated Jews too. Amazing! We elected a Muslim class president. Stop acting like you know me.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31461 posts
Posted on 9/16/14 at 11:33 am to
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There is a very large country in Europe led by a government comprised entirely of people who identify as Orthodox Christians who seem to be quite eager to deliver "humanitarian aid" to a country to the southwest that happens to have a lot of Jews.

But I'm sure this is different.


i assume you were just replying to the last post in the thread and not to me, as this has nothing to do with my posts.
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