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re: Judge appointed by O'Bama rules illegals can legally carry firearms and ammo

Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10927 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:27 am to
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the Constitution applies to all people in America, not just citizens


Well, that's what the United Socialist Liberal party of Amerika wants you to think.

Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:28 am to
Don't feel sorry for me, my rights don't come from people in Washington
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:29 am to
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Well, that's what the United Socialist Liberal party of Amerika wants you to think.


And James Madison.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:30 am to
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And James Madison.


And Jefferson
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4512 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:25 am to
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permit will be issued free.


When? To who?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19514 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:41 am to
Da judge:

Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8377 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:47 am to
Translation: Hey Juan, unload on the MAGA Gringo.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:49 am
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:48 am to
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Private party sale


So if laws and regulations are ignored (by this judge) can another judge rule that we can possess fully automatic firearms without any bullshite ATF paperwork and fees?

Because that would be great. And suppressors as well.

And to clarify I believe every single gun law on the books is unconstitutional because they are all an infringement. The only law that could be passed that would not be an infringement would be if the government required every citizen to posses a firearm.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98840 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:53 am to
Illegals are not The People

As in "We, The People"

As in "the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:15 am to
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people traveling here for vacation have all the rights of US citizens?

Absolutely
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24824 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:29 am to
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the Constitution applies to all people in America, not just citizens

fricking. Wow.

...breh.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9602 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:34 am to
I think it's fricked up but I can't do anything about it.

What I can do is stay armed and stay proficient with my firearms. The court says they can be armed, well I'm armed as well. And I'd wager that I have more training and expertise than they do if it comes down to brass tacks.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9602 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:39 am to
I have two different ranges on my farm and shoot one of my firearms on nearly a daily basis. I have enough firearms to outfit a squad and enough ammunition to outfit a platoon.

I have one target set up to shoot at from my front porch.

Stay froggy my friends.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2124 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:40 am to
Sad how some of these illegals are treated better than a citizen.

And just because he isn't a violent felon here, doesn't mean he isn't a violent felon. And since he doesn't have to prove who he is, I guess that is ok.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 10:43 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24824 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:26 am to
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What I can do is stay armed and stay proficient with my firearms. The court says they can be armed, well I'm armed as well. And I'd wager that I have more training and expertise than they do if it comes down to brass tacks.

Thankfully we're in a very "2A-friendly" state with many avid shooters who pack heat at all times, myself included.

Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4889 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:36 am to
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the Constitution applies to all people in America, not just citizens





The first action of an illegal alien is unlawful entry to the country, thus they are felons. While even felons have certain protections under the Constitution, they are not permitted to carry a firearm.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57700 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:21 pm to
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people traveling here for vacation have all the rights of US citizens? Absolutely


Where do those rights end? At that point, what's the point of citizenship?

Due process with crimes is an international standard and human right. Right to bear arms is not. Again, why should ALL US citizen rights apply to those who step foot in America?
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
1586 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:48 pm to
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No fricking way an illegal should be afforded the same rights as an American citizen.


They don't have the same "rights", but they at least have inalienable rights. Life/Self-Preservation is one of them. Owning a gun helps provide for it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:51 pm to
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can another judge rule that we can possess fully automatic firearms without any bullshite ATF paperwork and fees?

Yes.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422565 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Where do those rights end? At that point, what's the point of citizenship?

The Constitution specifies some citizen-only rights, which is why it's clear that the Constitution envisioned rights that extend beyond just citizens (or else the distinction of "citizen" would never be needed).
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