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re: Judge appointed by O'Bama rules illegals can legally carry firearms and ammo

Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:55 pm to
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They've also been convicted of a crime.
Nah. See bonds and also red flag laws
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:56 pm to
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natural right to bear arms



Few people understand what that means.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 6:56 pm to
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They've also been convicted of a crime.

This is the biggie
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30026 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:07 pm to
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the Constitution applies to all people in America, not just citizens



no it does not

but liberal hacks keep pretending it does
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9179 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:11 pm to
The Constitution is, or should be, only for American citizens!!!!!
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71458 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 pm to
It’s illegal in Illinois regardless to poses a firearm without a FOID and or CCL.

Good thing this may be the final nail against FOID. If an illegal has 2a protection so do state residents.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:16 pm to
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The Constitution is, or should be, only for American citizens!!!!!

Jefferson nor Madison believed that
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9179 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Correct.

Sounds like some people are angry that our government cant ban people from having firearms.


It's illegal to employ an illegal. It's against the law to help illegals gain entry into this country illegally!
No fricking way an illegal should be afforded the same rights as an American citizen. They shouldn't be able to buy firearms or be able to vote.
The founding fathers would agree.
frick you if you don't, it's not surprising.... Knowing the liberal, leftist, fricktard you are. You are always only seeking to instigate discord and cause division. Your lucky we live in these times. So lucky.
Then again, I'm certain you wouldn't say these things in public.
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
3815 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:18 pm to
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So by incorporating illegal aliens into 'the people' for 2A rightsm, this grants then other rights, like voting.


No it doesn't.

It's not even a stretch to think modern progressives wouldn't try to use the right to bear arms by an illegal immigrant as precedence to allow the same illegals the right to vote.

Many states and municipalities have already enacted ordinances or laws allowing non citizens to vote.

Aren't the right to bear arms and the right to vote constitutional rights?

There is no limit to the dilution of citizens rights these jackals are willing to stoop to.

Democrats and their judicial henchmen are trying to turn the 2A against 2A supporters.

I would like to review this judges past rulings, statements and beliefs on the 2A to see how much consistency he has shown, or if his new support was afforded solely to this non citizen.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:20 pm to
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The founding fathers would agree.

You're wrong. Jefferson didn't believe you're rights changed based on location. That's not a God given right
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260610 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:21 pm to
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No fricking way an illegal should be afforded the same rights as an American citizen.


So, youre saying the right to bear arms comes from Government?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9179 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:22 pm to
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You're wrong. Jefferson didn't believe you're rights changed based on location. That's not a God given right


Jefferson didn't understand the situation of today. Wake the frick up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260610 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:22 pm to
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The Constitution is, or should be, only for American citizens!!!!!


So, you want the government to ban non citizens from owning guns?

Just checking here.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260610 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:23 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 7:25 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260610 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Jefferson didn't understand the situation of today. Wake the frick up.


What new gun laws do you want to see?
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9179 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:25 pm to
So this guy should be able to buy a firearm??


LINK
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39204 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:27 pm to
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It's not even a stretch to think modern progressives wouldn't try to use the right to bear arms by an illegal immigrant as precedence to allow the same illegals the right to vote.

The 15th amendment specifically states you have to be a citizen to vote. You can't extend that to non citizens, though I'm sure some states will try

quote:

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude–


Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
437 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:27 pm to
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Jefferson didn't understand the situation of today. Wake the frick up.


You don't understand liberty. If our rights came from the government you would be right. Rights come from God
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:29 pm to
We’re inching closer to the Wild Wild West a little more each day.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90629 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 7:33 pm to
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So by incorporating illegal aliens into 'the people' for 2A rights, this grants them other rights, like voting.


15th amendment specifically says the right of citizens of the U.S. to vote shall not be abridged based on race, gender, etc. 26th amendment establishes the voting age at 18.

Citizens is key word here. Whereas the 2nd amendment says simply the people.

Bill of Rights in general is seen as natural born inalienable rights so you can argue that the first 10 amendments applies to non citizens in the US
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