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re: Jon Huntsman: Gay marriage is inevitable.

Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:46 pm to
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This would mean, for example, religious organizations can do and say whatever they want about it, and it can be actively encouraged or discouraged by anyone, openly. That's not what the gay agenda wants.


See my post above this for the solution to that issue
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:47 pm to
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That's how it is now.
I know. The gay agenda is trying to change that.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:48 pm to
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I know. The gay agenda is trying to change that.


I'll ignore your use of "the gay agenda" and simply ask how?
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:48 pm to
I wonder how many people in favor of gay marriage would balk at bigamous marriage. I'm genuinely interested.

In the end, people's civil relationships with other consenting partners is really not any of our business. Until government gets out of the marriage business altogether, they ought to recognize gay marriage as well.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:51 pm to
Protesting churches seems like an obvious answer. The "some people are born gay" lie is a big one too, altering the culture.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
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The "some people are born gay" lie is a big one too,


So you do not believe some people are predisposed to being attracted to the same sex? Do you believe it is solely a product of environment. Please don't tell us you are one of the idiots that believe people can choose who they are attracted to.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
I've already gone into it, but thanks for insulting my intelligence.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 2:55 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:57 pm to
Tell us the truth about why people are gay. The world wants to know.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:59 pm to
The "gay agenda" is not a thing. There may be a few independent organizations that have specific goals but that does not encompass all gay people. Just like the Westboro Baptist Church does not represent all Christians. The majority of gay people do not care if the Catholic Church agrees with them on gay marriage. There is also a large number of gay christians so the two are not mutually exclusive.

And 'being born gay' is not a lie. We've already covered that there is a genetic aspect to it. For some its probably more than for others. It's not a lie though.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:00 pm to
For the same million reasons people do ANYTHING ELSE. Why would gay sex be any different?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:01 pm to
I went back and reread your posts and did not see where you implied that people can choose who they are attracted to, but if you believe this you don't have much intelligence to insult.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:01 pm to
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And 'being born gay' is not a lie.
It is, at best, a vast oversimplification. No different than saying LeBron was born a basketball player. Yes, his genetics played a large role, but so did everything else.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:03 pm to
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I went back and reread your posts and did not see where you implied that people can choose who they are attracted to, but if you believe this you don't have much intelligence to insult.
I'm not sure I believe in choice at all, for anything. We haven't got much of a grip on human behavior. It's silly to think we have sexuality figured out.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:06 pm to
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Easy way to game the system for all us dudes that dont want to get married. Thanks gheys!

Hey, if you want to marry your best friend because you can't get a girl, I say go for it
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:07 pm to
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In the end, people's civil relationships with other consenting partners is really not any of our business. Until government gets out of the marriage business altogether, they ought to recognize gay marriage as well.



Agreed...gov should get out, but if they're going to be in it then the law should apply equally.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:07 pm to
I just don't see how you can admit to a probable genetic disposition, but be absolutely positive that no one is "born gay". Maybe you have it all figured out though.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:08 pm to
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but be absolutely positive that no one is "born gay".
I never said that.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:09 pm to
You've stated it was a choice similar to enjoying playing basketball.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:10 pm to
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It is, at best, a vast oversimplification. No different than saying LeBron was born a basketball player. Yes, his genetics played a large role, but so did everything else.



I'm not going to argue with you on this. I've known since I was in late elementary school that was attracted to the same sex. I grew up in a very stable, large family. Both parents, several brothers, both grandparents. I grew up hunting, fishing, involved in sports.

Everything that a decently well off straight kid would go though growing up, I went through. None of that mattered as far as who I was attracted to from as far back as I can remember.

But but but, you have it all figured out.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:13 pm to
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But but but, you have it all figured out. 
Nothing in your story disputed anything I said.
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