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Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
WTF?
7 downvotes? Pitiful slackers.
Additional commentary added to OP.
7 downvotes? Pitiful slackers.
Additional commentary added to OP.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 pm to Zach
Because he doesn't run the gov't by himself. For some of his bad policies, it took more than just him to enact. Just like Bush isn't the sole blame for the Iraq war.
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Obama's policies have been awesome and he deserves the credit now that the economy is kicking arse and has recovered from the Republican disaster he inherited.
L. O. L.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:28 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
We're still at Sub 63% participation, right?
At what point do we get to BO (Before Obama)?
At what point do we get to BO (Before Obama)?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:29 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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204,000
Funny... I remember when adding 207,000 jobs in a month was a sign of a shitty economy.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:29 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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All net gain in jobs in North Carolina since 2000 has went to illegals or legal immigrants. 10 percent of the job force in California are illegal aliens Most jobs being created now are low wage service jobs.
If our low information lazy work force would get off their asses and go do some work that they feel is beneath them, they could probably get some of those jobs going to the illegals.
And I challenge your point that most new jobs are low wage. La, Texas, and North Dakota among others are booming with oil and gas work and are begging for people to come fill the good paying jobs.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:30 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Obama's policies have been awesome and he deserves the credit now that the economy is kicking arse and has recovered from the Republican disaster he inherited.
Troll Troll Troll.... If you want to have an honest and objective discussion about things, cool.
But the admins, as terrible as they are, need to step up and really begin banning these types of threads.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:31 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
We clearly have very different defintions of "Doing Well"
Total employed is up to roughly 2006 levels...
But our population has grown just a wee bit during that time. The participation rate...
Then number of those looking for work, but unable to find any... has only slightly improved...
The part time workers, due to inability to find full time work... is still at record highs...
So before I draw any conclusions from *snicker* the ADP report and a former Obama advisor (Zandi)... I'll wait to see something above historic norms before I declare the employment market as "doing well"...
Total employed is up to roughly 2006 levels...
But our population has grown just a wee bit during that time. The participation rate...
Then number of those looking for work, but unable to find any... has only slightly improved...
The part time workers, due to inability to find full time work... is still at record highs...
So before I draw any conclusions from *snicker* the ADP report and a former Obama advisor (Zandi)... I'll wait to see something above historic norms before I declare the employment market as "doing well"...
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:35 pm to Lsut81
quote:Exactly the position of many on here including myself. Burns the OP's strawman... maybe dress him in Nomex next time...
I don't think the economy is his fault, what I do think is that most of what he has done to try to fix it has ended up hindering a faster recovery.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:42 pm to udtiger
quote:What's funny is the negative tone associated about these polling numbers...
Funny... I remember when adding 207,000 jobs in a month was a sign of a shitty economy.
quote:
Yet a CBS News poll released this week found that 52 percent of respondents disapproved of Bush's handling of the economy, while 42 percent approved. Those numbers were worse than his overall approval rating, which split with 46 percent disapproving and 45 percent approving.
Obama would kill for those numbers!
This post was edited on 9/4/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:43 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Your a awesome team player for the democratic party.
Hope they pay you well. You earn it.
Hope they pay you well. You earn it.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Job Market Doing Well
quote:Bumped DeltaDoc's thread for your enjoyment.
At Milwaukee Laborfest in Wisconsin this past weekend, President Obama spoke about how he and the Democrats believe the American economy has strengthened over the last six years. The president told the crowd that “by almost every measure, the American economy and American workers are better off than when I took office.” That just isn’t true. And a trove of new analysis proves my point.
A definition of being off-message is when a politician says things to people that differs from what they observe for themselves. Happy talk about the economy doesn’t fool anybody; it makes them angry. According to a George Washington University Battleground poll released today, 54 percent of voters disapprove of the job President Obama is doing on the economy. Even more telling, an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll from August showed that 49 percent of Americans still think we are in a recession. In that same poll, 76 percent said that they do not feel confident “that life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us.”
The truth is, in many ways Americans are worse off today than they were before the recession. Sentier Research released a report showing that median household income is down 4.8 percent from December 2007, when the recession began, and down 3.1 percent from the end of the recession in June 2009. The last time I checked, having less money is not an indication that you are better off.
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The labor force participation rate is still incredibly low, at only 62.9 percent. Democrats can crow about how the unemployment rate has now decreased to 6.2 percent, but the primary reason for that drop is not because people have gone into comfortable retirement; it’s because they can’t find a job. So when the president says that “more folks are working,” people are left shaking their heads, wondering if the president doesn’t know, doesn’t care or thinks it is effective to be deceitful.
There are just too many bothersome facts about the lack of growth and jobs in today’s economy. This administration is the most anti-business administration since World War II, and people who want to work notice.
I don’t ever expect the president to stand in front of a crowd and say “woe is me, I’m a failure,” but when he goes out there and pats himself on the back, crowing about the success of the Obama economy, he only makes his political situation worse.
The Obama Economy Is Not Working For Democrats....
(Posted by DeltaDoc 9/4/14 at 10:10 am)
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:53 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Dude...you're such a predictable fanboy, sunshine pumper.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:57 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I don't think you understand how this works.
NC_Tigah
quote:=Bush's fault.
median household income is ... down 3.1 percent from the end of the recession in June 2009
quote:=Obama's fault.
Private employers added 204,000 new workers
Posted on 9/4/14 at 12:58 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:
Obama's policies have been awesome and he deserves the credit now that the economy is kicking arse and has recovered from the Republican disaster he inherited.
I'm in the construction industry. We're normally a pretty good indicator of what's going on with the economy/job market.
I had a guaranteed 40 hour week when he inherited this "Republican disaster".
Two weeks ago my boss cut me down to 32 hrs/wk (20% pay cut) because there's not enough work.
If Obama saves me any more from this "Republican disaster" I might end up laid off all together.
Stock market is at record highs! Woo hoo!! That's great there are some people sitting on a ton of cash but they sure don't seem to be spending it on long term capital outlays. I wonder why?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:02 pm to NC_Tigah
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A definition of being off-message is when a politician says things to people that differs from what they observe for themselves. Pissing on people's heads and telling them that it's raining makes them angry. According to a George Washington University Battleground poll released today, 54 percent of voters disapprove of the job President Obama is doing on the economy.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:07 pm to ChoupiqueSacalait
quote:
I'm in the construction industry. We're normally a pretty good indicator of what's going on with the economy/job market.
I had a guaranteed 40 hour week when he inherited this "Republican disaster".
Two weeks ago my boss cut me down to 32 hrs/wk (20% pay cut) because there's not enough work.
If Obama saves me any more from this "Republican disaster" I might end up laid off all together.
So from 2008 up until two weeks ago you had a guaranteed 40 hours per week at the same or steadily increasing rates?
And if that is true, then in your opinion there was no drop off in the economy up until 2 weeks ago?
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:10 pm to mmcgrath
No.
Work has been slow for a long time, my boss just couldn't keep eating the hours that I wasn't billable any more.
Work has been slow for a long time, my boss just couldn't keep eating the hours that I wasn't billable any more.
Posted on 9/4/14 at 1:11 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:From all those charts it seems like the direction of the economy was quickly restored right after he took office. Do you think immediately after the cliff like dropoff in 2008/09 that there should / could have been an equally sudden bounce back to the economy? Do you really think the US economy turns on a dime like that?
So before I draw any conclusions from *snicker* the ADP report and a former Obama advisor (Zandi)... I'll wait to see something above historic norms before I declare the employment market as "doing well"...
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