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re: Jindal is out of touch---

Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:19 am to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:19 am to
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This is a pretty fair assessment. His entire tenure seems to be outwardly focused. The quintessential question of his administration seems to be "how will this be perceived by the rnc?"

In doing that, he often shot for being as inoffensive as possible while building his national resume with bullet point reforms. The problem is, rather than focusing on those reforms, he focused on the public perception of those reforms in the national spotlight rather than their substance.

Doesn't his resume look great? He balanced the budget without raising taxes, fought to end the income tax, initiated ethics reforms, initiated a school voucher program, and fought to streamline higher education in his state. However, if you scratch past the surface, you find the shiny ironclad resume is rusted through.

He payed for recurring expenses with one time money to balance the budget, he proposed ending the income tax without a workable plan to replace the lost revenue, his ethics reforms exempted his own office and do more to punish opposition than to combat any corruption, his school voucher plan has been repeatedly ruled unconstitutional, and he failed in streamlining education and simply took a cleaver to higher ed funding. The suno merger was a colossal failure which ended any further attempts at reform. He also didn't place any restrictions on what higher ed could cut from their budgets nor did he attempt to reform the bloated leadership structure of our university systems. He just let the universities cut that which would upset the most people (upkeep, instructor salaries, and reduce offered sections of classes) making him look like an anti-intellectual baffoon.

The best description of Jindal's tenure as Louisiana's governor was spoken by George Washington in his critiques of the Articles of Confederation. Jindal is "a shadow without substance."


BEST description I have read anywhere.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:23 am to
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he demonstrated he is no real conservative


And you are????

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He grabbed all the federal largesse he could after Gustav and BP.


Uh, that's what FEMA is there for.

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Nobody gives a darn a Chicago Community Organizer thinks about Russian foreign policy.


We should all care about foreign policy.

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He walks off from fights too easily and ends up with no support.


I guess that's why he won re election in a landslide.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:25 am to
BS organizations Choctaw. Those are basically organizations in the economic development industry patting each other on the back.

Louisiana's business climate is much better because of oil and fracking.

Jindal passed out a lot of money to a very few businesses. Most of the businesses that have opened up here with LED fanfare were coming anyway or were so massively bribed they came here instead of going somewhere else. The state has done nothing I can see in my business that substantially influenced our success since Jindal took office.

Jindal taking credit for the current economic climate in Louisiana is like Obama taking credit for the rise in the stock market since he took office.

This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 10:28 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:27 am to
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he demonstrated he is no real conservative


And you are????


Post one example of a post of mine that can be described as anything other than small government conservative.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:30 am to
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quote: He grabbed all the federal largesse he could after Gustav and BP.

Uh, that's what FEMA is there for.


This kind of reminds me of the people who criticize Clarence Thomas because he MAY have need affirmative action to get into Yale Law School.

If they had affirmative action for cajuns, and it would not only get you into Harvard or Yale Medical, MBA or Law School but also provide you with a free ride, I would have taken advantage of it IN A SECOND, even though I knew it wasn't "right" (no pun intended). And, so would 99.9% of the cajuns who could get in.

Same with Jindal and the FEMA money. Notice he did turn down the "free" Medicaid money -- but not on "philosophical" grounds as the mainstream media want you to believe. He turned it down because eventually it will bankrupt those states who took the "easy" money now.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 10:33 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:34 am to
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Post one example of a post of mine that can be described as anything other than small government conservative.


OK, let's assume you are. I hit you with FOUR points. You responded to ONE. You lose 3-1.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:37 am to
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BS organizations Choctaw. Those are basically organizations in the economic development industry patting each other on the back.


Forbes

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Additionally, several business tax cuts initiated by Gov. Jindal helped improve the competitiveness of the state. He eliminated sales taxes on manufacturing machinery and equipment, natural gas and business utilities, and tangible personal property consumed in manufacturing processes. A state franchise tax on corporate debt and the capital gains tax on the sale of privately held businesses, which was once a contributor that drove successful entrepreneurs out of Louisiana, were also eliminated within Gov. Jindal’s first term in office.

Substantially reducing the state and local tax burdens on businesses that were driving the economy, these changes collectively made a significant impact on Louisiana’s business climate, allowing the state to now have a competitive tax structure. This year, in a 50 state analysis released by The Tax Foundation and KPMG, Louisiana was ranked the no. 2 state with the lowest state and local tax burdens on new firms and no. 10 for mature firms. These results are incorporated into major national business climate rankings.

This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 10:39 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:38 am to
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OK, let's assume you are. I hit you with FOUR points. You responded to ONE. You lose 3-1.


Abusing FEMA is conservative?

He is wrong on his foreign policy position of interventionism. He stands with McCain while the party moves toward Paul. That on top of nobody cares what the Governor of Louisiana thinks on Crimea.

He could not beat a real conservative today in an election for governor.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:42 am to
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Abusing FEMA is conservative?

He didn't abuse FEMA, Moon.

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He is wrong on his foreign policy position of interventionism


Give me his foreign policy position of intervention.
How many troops would he commit to an attack on Russia? When did he say it?

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That on top of nobody cares what the Governor of Louisiana thinks on Crimea.


Do they care what the gov of Alaska thinks about the Ukraine? They should have.

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He could not beat a real conservative today in an election for governor.


Name a 'real' conservative in La. you would like to run for Gov, Moon.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:43 am to
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Additionally, several business tax cuts initiated by Gov. Jindal helped improve the competitiveness of the state. He eliminated sales taxes on manufacturing machinery and equipment, natural gas and business utilities, and tangible personal property consumed in manufacturing processes. A state franchise tax on corporate debt and the capital gains tax on the sale of privately held businesses, which was once a contributor that drove successful entrepreneurs out of Louisiana, were also eliminated within Gov. Jindal’s first term in office.

Substantially reducing the state and local tax burdens on businesses that were driving the economy, these changes collectively made a significant impact on Louisiana’s business climate, allowing the state to now have a competitive tax structure. This year, in a 50 state analysis released by The Tax Foundation and KPMG, Louisiana was ranked the no. 2 state with the lowest state and local tax burdens on new firms and no. 10 for mature firms. These results are incorporated into major national business climate rankings.


She is wrong.

KBB passed the bill to phase in the reduction of Franchise tax. The utility tax was cut not ended. The sales tax on machinery and equipment continues today.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:46 am to
so apparently you're the only one thats right about Jindal

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Now, Louisiana has become one of the most attractive states to do business across a wide spectrum of both traditional and burgeoning industries. This is in large part due to governmental reforms and economic development efforts that were executed in 2008, at a time when most states were pulling back on those efforts due to the beginning of the economic recession. In the past four years, the state has improved on all major business climate rankings, excelling on several lists among the top 10, and luring in dozens of economic development projects that are creating more than 63,000 jobs and over $28 billion in new capital investment.


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In conjunction with the Louisiana Workforce Commission and several community and technical college campuses across the state, the LED created Louisiana FastStart that year to improve the workforce in Louisiana. The new programming, which now consists of 32 full-time professionals and about 105 specialized training contractors, designs comprehensive, customized workforce solutions to eligible companies that are either expanding or new to Louisiana. With little time to launch the new initiative, Secretary Moret recruited Jeff Lynn from Georgia’s Quick Start program to lead as the Executive Director of FastStart.

FastStart quickly became one of the strongest economic development tools to come out of Louisiana, turning what was once a poorly perceived workforce in Louisiana into one of the top influencers for new business development. For the past three years in a row, Business Facilities Magazine has ranked LED FastStart as the #1 workforce-training program in the country. FastStart has contributed in assisting projects that have brought in more than 63,000 direct and indirect jobs and over $28 billion in new capital investment.


Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:48 am to
Look Zach you can hang with that slimy, self centered politician if you wish but I have seen his true colors and they are all about Bobby.

He is just like Clinton in regards to political ambition.

He is a creation of Teepells.

I don't know which trait of politicians is more disgusting--a never ending pursuit of money or a never ending pursuit of fame and power.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6038 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:50 am to
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He didn't abuse FEMA, Moon.


This is exactly who I was thinking of when I began reading his posts.

I have never heard anyone attack Jindal on the air like Moon does daily.

Bobby Jindal could find the cure for cancer (while wearing the flag as a suit) and Moon would insist that he is not conservative and hurting the state.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:51 am to
LINK

more buddies patting each other on the back i guess

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Louisiana ranked No. 3 nationally in Site Selection magazine’s annual Governor’s Cup rankings among states that gained the most new and expanded corporate facilities on a per-capita basis in 2013. In 2012, Louisiana ranked No. 8.

Louisiana was also tops in the South for per-capita corporate facilities, according to a news release from Louisiana Economic Development.
Louisiana’s per-capita ranking trailed only Ohio and Nebraska. The Governor’s Cup measures the quantity of significant business development projects for the calendar year.
In raw numbers, Louisiana rose from No. 12 to No. 11 in gaining new facilities.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:53 am to
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In the past four years, the state has improved on all major business climate rankings, excelling on several lists among the top 10, and luring in dozens of economic development projects that are creating more than 63,000 jobs and over $28 billion in new capital investment.


You going to credit Jindal with that??? Give me a break.

What do you think Fast Start is??? Please tell us.

Do you think 63000 jobs were created here because of Fast Start???
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:55 am to
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He didn't abuse FEMA, Moon.


This is exactly who I was thinking of when I began reading his posts


I never listen to him.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:57 am to
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Site Selection magazine’s annual Governor’s Cup


Absolutely an economic development industry publication.

I don't know a single non government person that has ever heard of it.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112438 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:58 am to
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Look Zach you can hang with that slimy, self centered politician if you wish but I have seen his true colors and they are all about Bobby.


Why don't you answer my questions?

Name the 'real' conservative that you would vote for Gov. That's a pretty damn simple question.

Question No. 2 ... Do you think Jindal broke his promise to 'not raise taxes' when he allowed LSU to increase tuition? Hmmmm?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79634 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:58 am to
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we get it...you hate Jindal because of the movie tax shite.


I think IB should keep on trying.

Eventually SOMEBODY will give him a speaking role/buy his crappy screenplay.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:58 am to
thats is the best summary of Jindal i have ever read on this board. btw i am neither a teacher,liberal, or state worker and i think Jindal is horrible and i am sad i voted for him.
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