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JBE says budget cuts "lack courage"---JBE lacks administrative ability

Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:48 am
JBE is whining because HB1 has $700 million in cuts to healthcare. He is says the legislature "lacks courage" because they did not specifically say which program state administrators---ie the governor--should cut.

Any other manager of any enterprise would rather disperse their own budget but JBE wants the leges to do his job.

What he really wants is for the legislature to propose specific areas to cut so he can criticize those cuts and continue his non stop crusade for higher taxes.

I say let him veto the budget and then over ride it.

He is already calling for a special session because taxes haven't been raised enough to suit him.

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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:50 am to
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He is says the legislature "lacks courage" because they did not specifically say which program state administrators---ie the governor--should cut.



He is absolutely correct, its a cowards way out.

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He is already calling for a special session

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Good, dont let those idiots go home until they put something meaningful forward.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:02 am to
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He is absolutely correct, its a cowards way out.


Oh BS. It's micromanagement. If the leges had an administration that would actually propose cuts they might be inclined to be more specific.

The JBE mantra is ---spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, shake down, shake down, shake down, spend, spend, spend and on and on.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:04 am to
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If the leges had an administration that would actually propose cuts they might be inclined to be more specific.



Take a refresher civics course.

And you are slipping, the gas tax made it out of committee two days ago.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:12 am to
Gotta wonder what the point of the Appropriations Committee is then

All its subcommittees too

Also, all those weeks of hearings where the committees grill the agency/program heads

I don't see it as cowardice, I see it as a combo of laziness, cowardice, and grandstanding
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78353 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:15 am to
Lost somewhere there in the JBE mantra you presented is the " apocalyptic moralizing ". Nobody wags The Finger Of Doom quite like Honor Code Johnny.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6440 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:19 am to
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JBE is whining because HB1 has $700 million in cuts to healthcare. He is says the legislature "lacks courage" because they did not specifically say which program state administrators---ie the governor--should cut.


I agree in principle, that administrators should be more capable of determining the needs. They should have more subject matter expertise, and are closer to the programs.

That said this Legislature is just full of crap. I watched bill after bill after bill which sunset, reduced, and killed various expemptions or removed statutory dedications be killed in committee.

I saw numerous legislators rail against statutory and constitutional dedications then oppose bills which removed them. I saw the same legislators then get up and offer bills which put more dedications in place.

Nobody on any of the financial committees gets any respect from me. They are so awful I couldn't tell you which one I respect the least.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11327 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:22 am to
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Good, dont let those idiots go home until they put something meaningful forward.


if you only knew what you were talking about.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 9:24 am to
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That said this Legislature is just full of crap. I watched bill after bill after bill which sunset, reduced, and killed various expemptions or removed statutory dedications be killed in committee.

I saw numerous legislators rail against statutory and constitutional dedications then oppose bills which removed them. I saw the same legislators then get up and offer bills which put more dedications in place.



Well said. The biggest impediment to LA moving forward is the legislature. The really sad part is it has ALWAYS been the legislature.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:09 pm to
The HOR passed a budget outlining where money is to go. They didn't make specific cuts, but they cut a department.

Another committee passed a 17 cent tax increase on a gallon of gas for the DOTD to spend on roads and bridges.

Did they specify which roads and which bridges were to be built? If they did I missed it.

What's the difference in telling DHH what they have to spend, and doing the same with DOTD?
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:10 pm to
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That said this Legislature is just full of crap. I watched bill after bill after bill which sunset, reduced, and killed various expemptions or removed statutory dedications be killed in committee.



Of course they are full of crap but no more so than the former House member, now Governor---John Bel Edwards.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:11 pm to
its time to blow up Louisiana's constitution and start from scratch. Nothing will ever get done with that travesty serving as the basis for our government.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:13 pm to
You don't want another Edwards controlling another constitutional convention.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:13 pm to
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The biggest impediment to LA moving forward


What does that mean---moving forward??

Are you saying moving forward is more Edwards taxes?? That would certainly grow the state government---is the government Louisiana?? Of course not.

The biggest impediment to the CITIZENS of Louisiana improving their standard of living IS big STATE GOVERNMENT and BIG TAXES.

I prefer to stand with the taxpaying citizens. You stand with the leeching bureaucrats if you wish.
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:16 pm to
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You don't want another Edwards controlling another constitutional convention.
yeah, i do, but only because i want louisiana to do something that will actually help for a change
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:17 pm to
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The JBE mantra is ---spend, spend, spend, tax, tax, tax, shake down, shake down, shake down, spend, spend, spend and on and on.


Mr Honor Code..
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:19 pm to
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Take a refresher civics course


Why? are you saying the governor of Louisiana never proposes spending?

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And you are slipping, the gas tax made it out of committee two days ago.


And I addressed that two days ago.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35894 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:25 pm to
You want a constitution not controlled by special interests, and you won't get this with Edwards as governor.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6440 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:55 pm to
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You want a constitution not controlled by special interests, and you won't get this with Edwards as governor.


At least be honest. You won't get that with anyone.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 12:58 pm to
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I prefer to stand with the taxpaying citizens.



You mean the citizens that keep sending that collection of dumbasses to Baton Rouge? those citizens?
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