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re: James webb tele proving big bang theory probably is inaccurate

Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:26 pm to
Who gives a shite about how the universe started? There IS NO creator. That is never going to make sense.
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:27 pm to
Sounds interesting, let me know when they say it’s almost like something a Supreme Being would have been doing
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:28 pm to
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Simulation theory is basically atheists saying there is a God (intelligent design) without saying it.



Simulation Theory does not conflict with religion.

Just name the simulation creator, God, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, or whoever. It all works.
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:29 pm to
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There IS NO creator. That is never going to make sense.


so what makes sense? explain it
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:33 pm to
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because according to some people the big bang is irrefutable


Are you referring to online trolls? It’s a theory.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:35 pm to
I remember the big bang. I was 18.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:35 pm to
My theory is God created physics, set the Big Bang in motion… and let physics do the rest.
Posted by L.A.
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:37 pm to
We've always known that the Big Bang theory was problematic because it begins with a singularity, a point at which space time takes on infinite density. To the best of my knowledge, most physicists feel that singularities are not possible in nature, and represent failures in our current models
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:38 pm to
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Simulation theory is basically atheists saying there is a God (intelligent design) without saying it.


*creator.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:38 pm to
I completely agree. I think it's perfectly logical that God set evolution and the big bang into motion.

A thousand years has to seem like an hour to God. So each of the 6 days he created, could have been 6 of the scientific eras we've been taught about in school and not a 24 hour day like we understand them.
Posted by NashvilleTider
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:41 pm to
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There IS NO creator


That literally goes against the laws of physics - name one thing that just appears out of thin air? The 2nd law of thermodynamics says things don’t more complex but decay over time.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:43 pm to
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I’ll never understand why these two things are seemingly mutually exclusive to so many people. If you believe in God, why the frick could he not have acted through the Big Bang/evolution, etc, [insert your scientific theory here]? The existence of one does not prevent the other from also being true.


I agree. Could he not have created one singular object and loaded it with all the components necessary to life then set it into motion. You know the whole be fruitful and multiply thing on a universe wide scale. Thus aliens to us would also be his creation.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:45 pm to
I just said IDGAF. I graduated LSU in physics and the start of it all just never interested me. It never will. It just isn’t an interesting topic. Answering the dumb question with a dumb answer isn’t helping anyone.
Posted by subotic
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:47 pm to
Sounds like you are wasting your time here.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:49 pm to
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I’ll never understand why these two things are seemingly mutually exclusive to so many people.



There is no "understand" because they aren't mutually exclusive. And I love the Big Bang; "kingdom of Heaven likened unto a mustard seed, the smallest of all...".

Philosophically, if God simply mandated It's Creative Dominance obviously in the creation of limited, free-willed 'children', then those who would (: devil:) would hold credible critique and Just rationale that God indeed engaged in a form of 'self-worship' as opposed to altruistic love in creating individuals which had NO CHOICE but to worship Him. The 'Big Bang' gives those who reject worship of God for the value of 'Equity'/Narcissism (I.e., Satan's desire to be equal to God) now cannot cry foul or indict God. They can go to 'Hell' (absence from God) of their own free will. And as many who take that bait, or worship that Value (Self). "He that seeks to save his self, shall lose it". We change. We evolve. We - Children of God who follow God's Truth - move toward power and perfection; though we know we'll never attain it. Going to Heaven, is where the fun is. Being there...is like Joe B smoking the cegar after the big game win. On to the next challenge.

God is perfect. Can't fool God.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39103 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:52 pm to
I really GAF about how things work, how they break, and the different ways to tell if they are breaking. Understanding models is very interesting to me…but ultimately I know they can say anything the operator wants them to.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10541 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:52 pm to
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funny the telescope they built to prove it is actually refuting it with it's discoveries.


It doesn't disprove the big bang theory, nor was the JWST made to "prove" the big bang is real (or not real for that matter).

Discoveries like this are what scientists created the JWST for. This is precisely what astronomers want to find as they are constantly seeking new information to test theories and create new ones.

These discoveries give astronomers massive hard ons
Posted by SpicyStacy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:53 pm to
So the science is wrong again? I'm so shocked
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28254 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:56 pm to
Jimmy Webb has a Telly? I thought he was more of a piano guy.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
10541 posts
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:58 pm to
Asking what makes sense to you isn't a dumb question. Do you really have no interest in how this universe, including you, came about?
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