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Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:15 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Ok in your magical fairy tale land i guess the laws of physics dont apply to some supernatural entity that you literally only believe bc your family raised you that way
I never mentioned religion.
How would the laws of physics apply to the being that is outside of space and time?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:17 pm to subotic
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I never mentioned religion.
How would the laws of physics apply to the being that is outside of space and time?
you are subscribing to the belief, with zero evidence, that a being exists outside of space time, which is the definition of religion
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:18 pm to hubertcumberdale
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lmfao do you realize that the definition of 'observing' is shining light onto something (light interacts with matter)? A physical person does not need light photons to enter their eye for something to exist
Tell you what: You leave the quantum physics, the optics, and the logic to me, and I'll let you keep your perpetual butthurtedness. Deal?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:20 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Tell you what: You leave the quantum physics, the optics, and the logic to me, and I'll let you keep your perpetual butthurtedness. Deal?
ok big brains, explain to me what it means to 'observe' something
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The quantum mechanical observer is tied to the issue of observer effect, where a measurement necessarily requires interacting with the physical object being measured, affecting its properties through the interaction. The term "observable" has gained a technical meaning, denoting a Hermitian operator that represents a measurement.[2]:?55
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:20 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:No, you're wrong because you're wrong. An any can gather all the available data in its ant farm and come up with all kinds of theories and "facts", but it's still just an ant in an ant farm. When I said "you" I didn't mean you specifically, although I suppose I could have.
yeah i dont subscribe to your religious beliefs so therefore im wrong lmfao
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:22 pm to hubertcumberdale
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How did a creator come to existence out of thin air, since you are a proponent of thermodynamics and the second law? The big bang theory sets into motion the second law of thermodynamics
I just want to know how a creator is bound to the laws of thermodynamics, according to your post. You can keep all of your other assertions to yourself.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:22 pm to prattalumni
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yeah cuz without that precious big bang, we might have to give credit to a creator.
Actually it is the opposite. Big Bang is support for a creator. In Big Bang, the universe has a beginning and thus needs a creator.
A steady state universe is an eternal universe without beginning or end, thus no creator needed.
At the moment, evidence supports Big Bang and a creator necessary.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:23 pm to VolcanicTiger
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When I said "you" I didn't mean you specifically, although I suppose I could have.
ok guy whatever you say
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Everything you think you know is wrong, and you have the relative reasoning skills of a goldfish.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:25 pm to omegaman66
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Wrong. The jest has not proven or even suggested the Big Bang theory is wrong.
Steady State, Bitch!
“God does not play dice” - Einstein
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:25 pm to hubertcumberdale
quote:Have you heard of the double-slit experiment? It has to do with light acting both as a wave and as a particle (absurd reconciliation IMO but that's where we are). The experiment shows (and has been repeated hundreds if not thousands of times or more) that whether light acts as a wave or a particle depends solely on whether or not it is being observed. In fact, if the status changes mid-flight, it goes back in time and changes its behavior.
ok big brains, explain to me what it means to 'observe' something
Alternative explanations are pretty much limited to the simulation theory, where probability curves don't collapse until they have to in order to save processing resources. If you're not familiar with what it means for a probability curve to collapse, see Schrodinger's Cat, and quantum entanglement.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:28 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Have you heard of the double-slit experiment? It has to do with light acting both as a wave and as a particle (absurd reconciliation IMO but that's where we are). The experiment shows (and has been repeated hundreds if not thousands of times or more) that whether light acts as a wave or a particle depends solely on whether or not it is being observed. In fact, if the status changes mid-flight, it goes back in time and changes its behavior.
yes, when you measure something, you will measure things you didnt had you not been measuring it.
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The quantum mechanical observer is tied to the issue of observer effect, where a measurement necessarily requires interacting with the physical object being measured, affecting its properties through the interaction. The term "observable" has gained a technical meaning, denoting a Hermitian operator that represents a measurement.[2]:?55
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:28 pm to omegaman66
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things happened slightly different that predictions. This is the norm. Scientist go to work to fit models to observations. Bunch of stupid articles on this subject misrepresenting the truth due to ignorance,
Well this explains the global warming BS.
We make computer models to predict that if the world’s temperature rises 1 degree that all glaciers in the world melt. Then when it doesn’t happen exactly how it was presented the “experts” start side stepping like a ballet dancer.
Even weathermen do this. I will keep quiet about our little season of relief so far if I haven’t jinxed us yet.
I guess every thing is a theory unless other wise proven true by natural observations.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:29 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Science is more and more coming to the uncomfortable (for some) realization that things don't exist until they are observed
The position of a subatomic particle only reveals itself after it interacts with other subatomic particles because they are actually waves until they are "observed" using light. When scientists tried to observe these particles, they have to bounce photons off of them in order to see them, and that interaction causes the wave function of a subatomic particle to collapse, forcing it to temporarily appear as a particle instead of a wave.
The interesting thing about it is that these particles, like electrons, can seemingly go back in time and change the state they were in previously based on "observation" in the present time. Likewise electrons can also change their position in the present by "borrowing" energy from the future (quantum tunneling). Waves may not exist only in the present, but in the past, present and future simultaneously. It's mind-blowing.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm to Jack Carter
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The position of a subatomic particle only reveals itself after it interacts with other subatomic particles because they are actually waves until they are "observed" using light
OP is confused as to what 'observing' means
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm to Jack Carter
volcanic beat me to it
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm to Tarps99
quote:Nah. Climate "scientists" simply blame the temperature measurements. Or pretend the heat is hiding at the bottom of the ocean.
We make computer models to predict that if the world’s temperature rises 1 degree that all glaciers in the world melt. Then when it doesn’t happen exactly how it was presented the “experts” start side stepping like a ballet dancer.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:30 pm to Indefatigable
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Unless you’re one of the literal/textualist creationists that thinks everything was created in six days.
pro tip: No one believes the earth was created in 6, 24 hour cycles. Wanna know why?
Because the thing that gave us the 24 hour cycle, the sun, wasnt created until the 4th "day".* Which means those six "days" were in no way, shape or form time divisions. But more likely untimed chapters of a book categorizing similar creative tasks into a classification called "days",
* Gen 1: 16-19
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And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:32 pm to hubertcumberdale
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What about humans 500 years ago? 1000 years ago? 10000 years ago?
Same species. Scientist of today build on the science of the ancestors. Today people that design device x don’t know how to make plastic that goes into it. Nobody today doesn’t build on the shoulders of others.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:33 pm to hubertcumberdale
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yes, when you measure something, you will measure things you didnt had you not been measuring it.
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