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re: It's very foolish for Trump to publicly mock our intelligence agencies
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:38 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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No because the right has never used the combined might of every intelligence agency we have at the taxpayers expense to investigate the main stream media and conduct hearings on their conduct in Congress.
That's because the MSM didn't hack/steal information. There's a pretty big difference between freely publishing something that YOU created versus publishing something that was stolen from someone else.
Our amendments protect our own free speech. They don't protect you from stealing information from others.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 12:40 pm
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Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:38 pm to the808bass
quote:The IC isn't new to that game.
hack partisan political circus.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:38 pm to cahoots
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Intelligence officials are also saying they published fake news. MSMHater, are you now OK with fake news?
The MSM has published more fake news in the weeks postdating the election than any conglomerate of hackers could have dreamed of concocting.
This fake news shite is over. It's done. It's not a thing. Stop trying to make it a thing.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:41 pm to cahoots
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That's because the MSM didn't hack/steal information. There's a pretty big difference between freely publishing something that YOU created versus publishing something against the will of its creator.
You're ignorant of history. This stuff happens all the time. No one cared how Newt Gingrich's phone got tapped. But the information on the call started an ethics review (pretty sure). The news media leaked intelligence briefings which were leaked to them illegally during the Bush administration and they were patriots for doing so.
Podesta's email gets hacked and our entire electoral process is in jeopardy. Grow the frick up and read a book.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:41 pm to Toddy
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How do you see this as political? Did you watch the hearings? The Dems and Repubs were in complete agreement the Russians tried to influence the election. Literally everyone in Washington agrees with this except Trump. Why?
Politics extends well beyon dem v repub man. politicians are fighting for survival right now, and they will say do whatever it takes to stay elected and maintain or increase their political power. which includes working with the fictional "other side" whenever necessary.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:41 pm to Mo Jeaux
Just curious.
Does anyone think the Russians wouldn't meddle in any of our previous presidential elections hoping to influence the vote?
Does anyone think the Russians wouldn't meddle in any of our previous presidential elections hoping to influence the vote?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:42 pm to Navytiger74
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The IC isn't new to that game.
Of course not. But it's only recognized when it's our ox being gored.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:44 pm to Toddy
He has the mentality of a boy in puberty. Many here are just like him, so they love it. There is no endgame. Just a rich high school kid running the country.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:46 pm to Clyde Tipton
Should a CEO publicly deride a department within his company?
Lets set aside the the fact that this CEO doesn't know what the frick he's talking about compared to the department he's publicly shaming.
Lets set aside the the fact that this CEO doesn't know what the frick he's talking about compared to the department he's publicly shaming.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:46 pm to Mr. Katanga
You sound unsuccessful. Sorry about that.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:47 pm to a want
quote:
Should a CEO publicly deride a department within his company
Jesus. You're stupid.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:48 pm to a want
quote:Talk about apples to spaceships
Should a CEO publicly deride a department within his company?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:49 pm to the808bass
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This stuff happens all the time. No one cared how Newt Gingrich's phone got tapped. But the information on the call started an ethics review (pretty sure). The news media leaked intelligence briefings which were leaked to them illegally during the Bush administration and they were patriots for doing so
In none of those cases did the media illegally obtain the information. The media didn't tap Newt's call and the media didn't hack into US govt servers to get the intelligence briefings. Russia allegedly orchestrated the attack and obtained the information. That's the difference. The media was playing the role of Wikileaks, not Russia, in those cases.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:49 pm to TheJacer
quote:I actually truly don't follow anything you're saying here. Does one need to conspire to undermine a dissenter's credibility? And how are the officers and analysts in the IC who concluded that the Government of the Russian Federation attempted to influence this election Trump's "dissenters?" It seems to me as though we're foes of Russia.
So is it now the official opinion of the liberals on the board that Trump is conspiring to reduce his dissenters credibility? Haven't we heard for years that those kinds of things don't really happen? A president is just a president and not a boogeyman?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:52 pm to Toddy
quote:
It's very foolish for Trump to publicly mock our intelligence agencies by Toddy
This isn't what's happening.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:56 pm to cahoots
quote:The media have published leaked (i.e. stolen) information--private and government, and sometimes highly classified. I never cottoned to the practice. But that's not what's at issue.
That's because the MSM didn't hack/steal information.
The media may in most cases publish such information--as they did in this election.
The people may weigh such information as they choose when forming opinions and making decisions--including the context in which they received the information--as they did in this election.
***That's one side of the equation.***
The other side, that Russia sought to influence our elections, is the matter at hand. I understand the consternation Trump and his team and supporters feel about the continued churn on this, but that's just tough. It needs to be addressed.
Don't know what about all this is so complicated.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:56 pm to Toddy
quote:
What's his endgame here?
To establish himself as the only trusted source of information
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:58 pm to Navytiger74
quote:How so?
It needs to be addressed.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:58 pm to cahoots
quote:
In none of those cases did the media illegally obtain the information
So the same as here.
quote:
Russia allegedly orchestrated the attack and obtained the information.
WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 1/5/17 at 1:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:It needs to be brought to light, as is being done. And there needs to be a reckoning. And I'm not talking about closing a few fricking retreats on the East Coast.
How so?
We've been saying "Cyber's the next domain of war" for over 10 damn years. It's time we stop treating it like a child's game.
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