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Islamic State magazine steers followers to U.S. gun shows for ‘easy’ access to weapons
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:14 am
In August, a former Islamic State recruit caused a stir when he described how the terrorist organization sought to exploit America’s lax gun laws.
“They say the Americans are dumb — they have open gun policies” the recruit told the New York Times from a German prison. “They say we can radicalize them easily, and if they have no prior record, they can buy guns, so we don’t need to have a contact man who has to provide guns for them.”
It appeared to be the first time anyone from the Islamic State had spoken openly about the organization’s views on U.S. gun control, as The Washington Post reported at the time.
Now, the Islamic State has spelled out its position in writing.
In the most recent issue of Rumiyah, its glossy multilingual propaganda magazine, the Islamic State encouraged recruits in the United States to take advantage of laws that allow people to buy firearms without having to present identification or submit to background checks.
Recruits should seek out gun shows and online sales in particular, said the write-up in the magazine, which was released Thursday.
“The acquisition of firearms can be very simple depending on one’s geographical location,” the piece read. “In most U.S. states, anything from a single-shot shotgun all the way up to a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle can be purchased at showrooms or through online sales — by way of private dealers — with no background checks, and without requiring either an ID or a gun license.”
“With approximately 5,000 gun shows taking place annually within the United States,” it added, “the acquisition of firearms becomes a very easy matter.”
A caption under a photo of what appeared to be a gun show read: “Gun conventions represent an easier means of arming oneself for an attack.”
The instructions appeared in an article titled “Just Terror Tactics” that recommended taking and killing hostages in the name of the Islamic State. It said firearms were an ideal weapon and told fighters to target people in crowded, public, enclosed areas to maximize the number of fatalities. As an example, it cited the assault on a gay nightclub in Orlando last summer, in which an American citizen claiming allegiance to the Islamic State shot and killed 49 people and injured dozens of others.
An image from an article in Rumiyah, the Islamic State’s main propaganda magazine.
Rumiyah’s article said that fighters should consider ambushing and robbing a gun shop or hunting store if they’re unable to purchase guns legally. The article also cautioned against asking others for assistance.
“If one does not possess any direct or informal contact with any gun dealers, he should abstain from randomly asking people whom they consider ‘trustworthy’ for help in acquiring them,” it read, “as in many cases this can lead to one falling into the trap of police sting operations or, at the very least, bringing upon oneself unnecessary suspicion.”
Gun control advocates have warned that some terrorism suspects would have no trouble buying guns through legal channels in the United States. They argue in favor of closing a “gun show loophole” and “online sales loophole” — what they believe are gaps in federal law that allow people to buy firearms from unlicensed dealers without identification or a background check. Legislation supporting such a move has been shot down in Congress year after year.
Another solution, some gun control advocates say, is to bar people on terrorist watch lists from buying weapons.
The National Rifle Association, gun rights activists and some civil rights lawyers contend that terrorism watch lists are too flawed to justify a ban and would violate people’s civil rights. The NRA also argues against legislation designed to close “loopholes,” saying federal law applies wherever a firearm sale takes place.
Under federal law, licensed firearm dealers must run background checks on gun buyers. Private, unlicensed sellers — some of whom set up shop at gun shows — are not subject to the same requirements. As long as the unlicensed seller and buyer reside in the same state, no record keeping is required.
It’s unclear whether exploiting U.S. gun laws is a core strategy in the Islamic State’s fight against the West. But there have been suggestions in recent years that some militants seek to do so.
Last year’s New York Times interview with the former Islamic State recruit was one such example. Another came in 2013, when a two-year-old video surfaced that showed an al-Qaeda spokesman urging fellow militants to buy guns in the United States.
“America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms,” the spokesman, Adam Gadahn said, according to CNN. “You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?”
At least twice in the past year, alleged Islamic State adherents have confessed to federal crimes after turning to gun shows to arm themselves.
Earlier this week, a Detroit man accused of collecting weapons for the Islamic State pleaded guilty to using a “straw buyer” to purchase a gun at a Virginia gun show in 2015. And in November, a North Carolina man pleaded guilty to plotting a mass shooting in the Islamic State’s name, after discussing his plans to buy a rifle at a gun show and kill as many as 1,000 in a public place.
The issue of would-be terrorists buying firearms from private sellers also came up in the Senate race in New Hampshire last year.
“Terrorists can still today — and by the way ISIS knows it, they have been advertising it — buy guns online and at gun shows in the United States of America,” Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.), then a candidate, said in a televised debate.
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“They say the Americans are dumb — they have open gun policies” the recruit told the New York Times from a German prison. “They say we can radicalize them easily, and if they have no prior record, they can buy guns, so we don’t need to have a contact man who has to provide guns for them.”
It appeared to be the first time anyone from the Islamic State had spoken openly about the organization’s views on U.S. gun control, as The Washington Post reported at the time.
Now, the Islamic State has spelled out its position in writing.
In the most recent issue of Rumiyah, its glossy multilingual propaganda magazine, the Islamic State encouraged recruits in the United States to take advantage of laws that allow people to buy firearms without having to present identification or submit to background checks.
Recruits should seek out gun shows and online sales in particular, said the write-up in the magazine, which was released Thursday.
“The acquisition of firearms can be very simple depending on one’s geographical location,” the piece read. “In most U.S. states, anything from a single-shot shotgun all the way up to a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle can be purchased at showrooms or through online sales — by way of private dealers — with no background checks, and without requiring either an ID or a gun license.”
“With approximately 5,000 gun shows taking place annually within the United States,” it added, “the acquisition of firearms becomes a very easy matter.”
A caption under a photo of what appeared to be a gun show read: “Gun conventions represent an easier means of arming oneself for an attack.”
The instructions appeared in an article titled “Just Terror Tactics” that recommended taking and killing hostages in the name of the Islamic State. It said firearms were an ideal weapon and told fighters to target people in crowded, public, enclosed areas to maximize the number of fatalities. As an example, it cited the assault on a gay nightclub in Orlando last summer, in which an American citizen claiming allegiance to the Islamic State shot and killed 49 people and injured dozens of others.
An image from an article in Rumiyah, the Islamic State’s main propaganda magazine.
Rumiyah’s article said that fighters should consider ambushing and robbing a gun shop or hunting store if they’re unable to purchase guns legally. The article also cautioned against asking others for assistance.
“If one does not possess any direct or informal contact with any gun dealers, he should abstain from randomly asking people whom they consider ‘trustworthy’ for help in acquiring them,” it read, “as in many cases this can lead to one falling into the trap of police sting operations or, at the very least, bringing upon oneself unnecessary suspicion.”
Gun control advocates have warned that some terrorism suspects would have no trouble buying guns through legal channels in the United States. They argue in favor of closing a “gun show loophole” and “online sales loophole” — what they believe are gaps in federal law that allow people to buy firearms from unlicensed dealers without identification or a background check. Legislation supporting such a move has been shot down in Congress year after year.
Another solution, some gun control advocates say, is to bar people on terrorist watch lists from buying weapons.
The National Rifle Association, gun rights activists and some civil rights lawyers contend that terrorism watch lists are too flawed to justify a ban and would violate people’s civil rights. The NRA also argues against legislation designed to close “loopholes,” saying federal law applies wherever a firearm sale takes place.
Under federal law, licensed firearm dealers must run background checks on gun buyers. Private, unlicensed sellers — some of whom set up shop at gun shows — are not subject to the same requirements. As long as the unlicensed seller and buyer reside in the same state, no record keeping is required.
It’s unclear whether exploiting U.S. gun laws is a core strategy in the Islamic State’s fight against the West. But there have been suggestions in recent years that some militants seek to do so.
Last year’s New York Times interview with the former Islamic State recruit was one such example. Another came in 2013, when a two-year-old video surfaced that showed an al-Qaeda spokesman urging fellow militants to buy guns in the United States.
“America is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms,” the spokesman, Adam Gadahn said, according to CNN. “You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle, without a background check, and most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?”
At least twice in the past year, alleged Islamic State adherents have confessed to federal crimes after turning to gun shows to arm themselves.
Earlier this week, a Detroit man accused of collecting weapons for the Islamic State pleaded guilty to using a “straw buyer” to purchase a gun at a Virginia gun show in 2015. And in November, a North Carolina man pleaded guilty to plotting a mass shooting in the Islamic State’s name, after discussing his plans to buy a rifle at a gun show and kill as many as 1,000 in a public place.
The issue of would-be terrorists buying firearms from private sellers also came up in the Senate race in New Hampshire last year.
“Terrorists can still today — and by the way ISIS knows it, they have been advertising it — buy guns online and at gun shows in the United States of America,” Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.), then a candidate, said in a televised debate.
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Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:17 am to CCTider
quote:
“In most U.S. states, anything from a single-shot shotgun all the way up to a semi-automatic AR-15 rifle can be purchased at showrooms or through online sales — by way of private dealers — with no background checks, and without requiring either an ID or a gun license.”
Nope
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:27 am to Scoop
Where do these people get their information? I have never bought a gun at a store or a gun show that I didn't have to do a background check.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:28 am to Scoop
quote:
Nope
I guess ISIS is off a little. Though I know that's true in Florida, except for a pistol grip shotgun. But AKs and ARs were easy to get. Much easier than pistols.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:32 am to papasmurf1269
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Where do these people get their information? I have never bought a gun at a store or a gun show that I didn't have to do a background check
It's in the ISIS magazine, so no clue where they got the info. Probably somewhere online. Though I had friends buys AKs at gun shows in Florida without an background check. I even know a guy who bought a pistol grip Mossberg using a fake id (printed themselves) and passed the background check. But that was pre 911, so that should've been fixed by now.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:37 am to CCTider
An aside. I just read about a new Muslim method for murdering people they don't like. Let's say you live in Iran and you hate your neighbor, Abdul Mustaffa. You create a fake facebook page and say "Hi, I'm Abdul Mustaffa. I live at 123 Camel Street. I think Mohammed is a friggin' homo and I poop on the Koran."
Then the Muslims get mad and go over to your neighbor's house and kill him. Brilliant!
Then the Muslims get mad and go over to your neighbor's house and kill him. Brilliant!
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:40 am to CCTider
Lol ok. I'd like to see the reactions of all of those conservatives being approached by droves of dark skinned people wanting to purchase guns without a background check.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:42 am to papasmurf1269
They probably get their information from the media and Democrats (same thing) who lie about gun control.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:43 am to FooManChoo
Yeahhh, I don't see your typical gun show vendor being interested in selling guns to a darker skinned guy who doesn't want a background check. That's most likely going to get them arrested after the vendor refuses to sell and reports the would be buyer.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:43 am to CCTider
I'm thinking a follower of ISIS is going to stick out like a soar thumb at a US gun show and may not have the end result they desire.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:44 am to FooManChoo
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Lol ok. I'd like to see the reactions of all of those conservatives being approached by droves of dark skinned people wanting to purchase guns without a background check.
My friends who bought AKs, were Muslims from India. But they were raised in America, and had no accent. They never had a problem buying whatever they wanted.
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:53 am to CajunTiger92
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I'm thinking a follower of ISIS is going to stick out like a soar thumb at a US gun show and may not have the end result they desire.
I think they'd be smart enough to not be dressed in black with an isis flag.
Probably look like the Orlando shooter. Probably homegrown guys. They aren't stupid enough to send a guy straight from Syria to a gun show in BR.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 11:59 am to CCTider
I am sure there will be a ton of private dealers willing to sell their AR to some guy named Muhammad.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:02 pm to CCTider
Sounds like pure bullshite.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:03 pm to CCTider
bullshite.
Any gun show and online puchase must be finalized through an FFL dealer.
Any gun show and online puchase must be finalized through an FFL dealer.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:10 pm to CCTider
I'm a passionate firearms enthusiest who does a half dozen or more FTF transactions a year and attends a lot of fun shows.
No one sells to Muslims or anyone who has an even remotely close resemblance to Muslims ... that I know of, without proper I.D. and, even then, unless they really pass the eye and smell test.
This gun show loophole false narrative that the anti-2nd Amendment libtards keep trying to push is laughable. And, despite their intentions, it's not helping them.
No one sells to Muslims or anyone who has an even remotely close resemblance to Muslims ... that I know of, without proper I.D. and, even then, unless they really pass the eye and smell test.
This gun show loophole false narrative that the anti-2nd Amendment libtards keep trying to push is laughable. And, despite their intentions, it's not helping them.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:35 pm to scrooster
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This gun show loophole false narrative that the anti-2nd Amendment libtards keep trying to push is laughable. And, despite their intentions, it's not helping them.
Exactly.
A vendor with a FFL has to follow the same laws and procedures at a show that they have to follow at their brick and mortar. Any private transactions that occur at a gun show could just as easily occur in a Denny's parking lot.
Online purchases are delivered to an FFL dealer where the purchaser has to go through the normal procedures before taking possession of the firearm.
It's sad how people just lap up bullshite.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:39 pm to CCTider
Liberals want guns banned but want Muslims to be happy at any cost.
Conservatives want guns everywhere but in the hands of Muslims.
Oh what shall we do.
Conservatives want guns everywhere but in the hands of Muslims.
Oh what shall we do.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 12:43 pm to udtiger
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bullshite.
Any gun show and online puchase must be finalized through an FFL dealer.
I think the writer of the piece is probably talking about FTF transactions between non-FFL attendees and other attendees ... which someone else already aptly explained could be accomplished just as easily in a Denny's parking lot somewhere.
Also, with regard to online purchases, I think the author was probably referring to places like Craigslist or ArmsList where the firearm is advertised and FTF transactions are then arranged by phone or email.
Posted on 5/6/17 at 1:02 pm to CCTider
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Though I had friends buys AKs at gun shows in Florida without an background check.
I am not saying you are wrong, because there are always ways to get around stuff. However, it isn't because background checks are not required. if they bought them without a background check, either they had a concealed carry permit, already, or somebody broke the law/rules.
What do I need to bring with me and what is the procedure for buying a gun?
You need a valid drivers license or other state issued picture ID. To purchase a gun in Florida you must be 18 to buy a rifle, 21 to buy a handgun and a Florida Resident. If you are not a Florida resident, the gun purchase may be shipped to a licensed dealer in your state. All exhibitors will accept cash or credit cards as a form of payment. If you have a Florida Concealed Weapons Permit, you may walk out with your gun the same day, otherwise a background check will be performed as well as 3-5 business day wait, depending on the county.
Florida Gun Shows
This post was edited on 5/6/17 at 1:09 pm
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