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re: Is Trump a faithful, practicing Christian?

Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:10 am to
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7327 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:10 am to
He doesn’t attack and denigrate Christians like the modern left so no matter how you look at it he’s the better choice for Christians.

This is obvious. It’s also disingenuous and an obvious deflection from the real issues for leftists to try to make your point all the time.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 6:13 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:17 am to
None of my business.

All I know is he isn't hostile to Christians.

The entire Democrat Party is hostile to Christians.

The RINO Wing of the GOP is hostile to Christians.

Trump is a friend to Christianity, that's all that matters.

What he believes is his business.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7855 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:28 am to
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Asking for a friend. His track record doesn't seem to align with Christian values, so I'd like to be informed from the smartest ones here. Please prove me wrong so we can make America Great Again!


We’re not electing a Priest. We need a leader. I’m for Trump because of his policies on the border and energy.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:30 am to
Who gives a shite, it’s not a religious position
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
9974 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:45 am to
Phil Robertson endorses him so hes definitely more Christian than Brandon.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15795 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:32 am to
If Trump had not appointed 3 pro-life justices, Roe vs Wade would still be the law of the land. As an evangelical Christian, I deeply appreciate that.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:42 am to
You sound like a pretentious nut.

Jesus ain’t coming back for you to vote on.


So guess what? Your choice will always be an imperfect person. What skeletons are in your closet?



Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41722 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:00 am to
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You do have that right, & I respect that. How do you think you would have reacted to Paul?
The Apostle? I’m sure I would have been weary of him at first, the the other Apostles were, but showing his repentance, he was accepted.

Trump doesn’t show fruits of a repentant heart as Paul did. He doesn’t go to church from all the reports I’ve seen. He speaks of “God” a lot, but not of Christ his savior (even the demons believe in God). Paul was a slave of Jesus after his conversion.

I’m not expecting a deep theology from political candidates, but I do expect men whom I vote for to be godly men, devoted to Jesus Christ, and who exemplify that faith in their daily walk.

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Trump has done that on many occasions. More so than any other president in my lifetime.
He has acknowledged that he will have to give an account to Jesus one day for how he rules and governs? I haven’t heard that, so if you could correct me there, I’d appreciate it.

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He often quotes the bible at every rally, speaks about what God has done for him
Politicians have historically quoted from the Bible and spoken about God, especially when pandering to religious voters. “God” is a great catch-all word precisely because it covers so many people. Christians, Mormons, Unitarians, Deists, Hindus, and even Muslims, among others, can listen to those words and not be offended. How often does Trump acknowledge Jesus as Lord and King?

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& fights for the sanctity of Christian values in this country.
I appreciate and agree with his positions on some social issues, but I can say that about Vivek, who is a Hindu. And at the same time, Trump has embraced the LGB community, even posing with the rainbow flag. There are atheists who are pro-life, yet I couldn’t vote for someone who openly hates God, no matter how much I might agree with them on certain policy issues.

Ultimately this comes down to how I want to honor the Lord. Can I honor Him by endorsing with my vote a person who supports what God hates? Can I honor Him by endorsing a person who doesn’t publicly acknowledge that Christ has been given all authority in Heaven and on earth? Can I honor Him by trusting in man rather than God (by hoping an ungodly person will be a political savior of our country rather than being faithful in trusting the Lord and His promises)?

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Trump is a flawed man, as was many men God has used. Whether he is a Christian, I don't really know, but he is on the right side of things and has asked that you pray for him.
I get that. He isn t just flawed, though. All humans are sinful but Christians are called to lives of holiness, seeking to be conformed to the image of Christ and putting sin to death. Wrestling with sin is a sign of saving faith. Not wrestling with sin is a sign that a person is not even a Christian. If Trump would publicly acknowledge his sin and confess that he is repentant and seeks to honor Christ above all, I might change my mind on voting for him.

I will continue to pray for him, as I do all my leaders, since Christians are supposed to pray for their leaders.

In closing, I get why Christians are going to vote for Trump. I did it twice. I’m not saying that someone isn’t a Christian if they vote for him or anyone else; our voting patterns do not save us, only Christ does. I’m just attempting to explain why I won’t be voting for him again.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7103 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 8:48 am to
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I didn’t think you were a pussy lib going by what you post on the H/F board, learn something new everyday.


I'm not a pussy lib. I don't worship a carnival barker like Trump. I don't vote for people who hand over the federal govt to people like Fauci and Birx, who appoint clowns like Milley, Wray, Bolton, etc to positions of power. Trump is a fraud. He accomplished almost nothing in this term and lost to a turnip in Biden because he did such a horrible job in 2020 with just about everything. I've never voted for Biden and also won't vote for Kamala, Newsom, Big Mike, etc.
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