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re: Is This the Next Trayvon? Ralph Yarl
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:27 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:27 am to the808bass
Where is Paul Harvey, we need the Rest of the Story
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Posted on 4/17/23 at 9:38 am to the808bass
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I don’t think we know anything about what he was doing. All we have is a narrative.
And the fact that the homeowner was released after making a statement to the police.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:11 am to mmcgrath
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quote:Just a guess, but he probably didn't get an answer at the door, and went looking to see if they were in the backyard or something. Homeowner saw him prowling around and assumed he was up to no good. Even if that were true, it doesn't justify shooting him.
If you are in my backyard that means you climbed a fence. The gate is locked for your protection. In Texas we have the right to use deadly force to protect our property especially at night.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:34 am to the808bass
quote:How the frick do you survive two gunshots to the head? Damn!
Yarl has survived those serious gunshot wounds and is currently in the hospital, recovering from his injuries.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:37 am to the808bass
Too soon to tell what actually happened and the MSM can't be trusted at all.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:39 am to mmcgrath
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Even if that were true, it doesn't justify shooting him.
Justify? Did something in the post sound an attempted justification of the shooting? The only alluded "justification" was how the kid could have ended up at the wrong house.
Trayvon Martin's shooting was justified. This sounds different. Now perhaps, as more facts come out we'll find out there were no siblings, and the kid attempted to attack and rob the homeowner. Doesn't seem likely, but in that circumstance the shooting would be justified.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:48 am to TexasTiger13
quote:According to police he was shot "in front of the residence."
If you are in my backyard that means you climbed a fence. The gate is locked for your protection. In Texas we have the right to use deadly force to protect our property especially at night.
Twitter video of police statement
I think we can safely say he wasn't looking in the backyard or anything like that. There is some chatter that the first shot was through a glass door, but nothing official.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 10:51 am to the808bass
We aren't talking "Oh here's lil Trayvon when he was 12." I'm leaning towards him being a good kid. You can be a bad kid and play the bass clarinet and want to go to Texas A&M to study chemical engineering, but the odds are much more against it. Trayvon had a rap sheet already. But we will see.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 11:58 am to mmcgrath
quote:How in hell could "we safely say he wasn't looking in the backyard or anything like that"?
I think we can safely say he wasn't looking in the backyard or anything like that.
If he knocked at the frontdoor, and no one answered, why wouldn't he walk around the house to see if his brothers were outside in the yard. He knew they were supposed to be there.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:05 pm to bhtigerfan
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How the frick do you survive two gunshots to the head? Damn!
Thought same...would guess a .22.
This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:20 pm to VolcanicTiger
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You can be a bad kid and play the bass clarinet and want to go to Texas A&M to study chemical engineering,
You’re a very trusting person. As soon as the usual suspects roll in, I trust very little of the narrative surrounding the alleged victim.
He very well might want to be an engineer. A ChE major at a specific school halfway across the country is well outside the norm for any 16-year-old.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:26 pm to the808bass
Well the huckster has made her appearance.
Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-Ariz.) on Monday denounced last week’s shooting of a Black Kansas City, Mo., teenager who had arrived at a wrong address.
“As someone who is still recovering from a gunshot to the head, I am heartbroken and infuriated that Ralph Yarl now faces a lifetime of recovery. At 16 years old. For simply ringing a doorbell,” Giffords, who survived an assassination attempt more than a decade ago, said on Twitter.
Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-Ariz.) on Monday denounced last week’s shooting of a Black Kansas City, Mo., teenager who had arrived at a wrong address.
“As someone who is still recovering from a gunshot to the head, I am heartbroken and infuriated that Ralph Yarl now faces a lifetime of recovery. At 16 years old. For simply ringing a doorbell,” Giffords, who survived an assassination attempt more than a decade ago, said on Twitter.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:34 pm to Jbird
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For simply ringing a doorbell,
The “simply” is always the tell in these stories.
“Young black men can’t simply go buy skittles…”
“can’t simply walk down the street…”
“can’t simply go for a jog…”
“can’t simply ring the doorbell…”
There’s already rumors that he tried to walk right into the house, perhaps thinking he was at the right address. None of the neighbors are talking to the media.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:35 pm to the808bass
I don't know what went down in this case, but I can say if the kid went to some black dude's house and was shot, there would be zero protests. If he was shot in a drive-by by black assailants there would be no protests.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:38 pm to TexasTiger13
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If you are in my backyard that means you climbed a fence. The gate is locked for your protection. In Texas we have the right to use deadly force to protect our property especially at night.
SMH. You can’t just shoot someone who is on your property. While Texas has the most liberal property laws, you can’t exactly just shoot a trespasser. Here’s a snippet:
“Texas Penal Code Section 9.421 states a person can use deadly force to protect tangible, movable property from another’s imminent commission of theft during the nighttime or to prevent another who is fleeing immediately after committing theft during the nighttime and is escaping with property if the person reasonably believes the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or that a use of force other than deadly force to recover the property would expose them to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.”
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:40 pm to BradBallard
That would be really interesting if this happened in Texas.
Missouri’s SYG law:
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Missouri’s SYG law:
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Missouri provisionally allows citizens to use lethal force in order to protect themselves, or protect someone else against the threat of death or great bodily harm, and additionally they may use lethal force to stop the commission of several forcible felonies, such as rape, burglary, home invasion, robbery, child molestation, and more.
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This post was edited on 4/17/23 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:42 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Because the cops said he was shot in front of the house. This isn't rocket science.
How in hell could "we safely say he wasn't looking in the backyard or anything like that"?
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:42 pm to the808bass
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You’re a very trusting person. As soon as the usual suspects roll in, I trust very little of the narrative surrounding the alleged victim.
He very well might want to be an engineer. A ChE major at a specific school halfway across the country is well outside the norm for any 16-year-old.
I play the odds. I still think more black kids are good than bad, and by quite a large margin. Also, his story completely adds up - the house he went to was on a street with a similar name and one block over (something like 115th Street vs. 115th Terrace). His story checks out 100%. I mean I suppose he could have tried to rob the homeowner for funsies, but I'm gonna play the odds here again.
That being said, I assign zero blame to the homeowner. Odds are he was a bit trigger-happy, but this is harder to gauge.
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:43 pm to jonnyanony
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just don't see how any human aims a firearm at someone's head and pulls the trigger unless they legitimately fear threat to life or property.
Your version of legitimate fear is different from someone else’s. The shooter may have had what he felt is legitimate fear. But that doesn’t mean it’ll pass for everyone else’s standards
Posted on 4/17/23 at 12:45 pm to the808bass
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The “simply” is always the tell in these stories.
“Young black men can’t simply go buy skittles…”
“can’t simply walk down the street…”
“can’t simply go for a jog…”
“can’t simply ring the doorbell…”
100% agree here. This is like when you hear "he was killed for $5." No, he was killed because the robber wanted his wallet and he decided to try to take the robber's gun away from him and did but then the robber's buddy ran over to help him and crossed the street and a car had to swerve and hit a light pole that fell on him.
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