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re: Is this the most lawless administration?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:59 am to bencoleman
Posted on 6/21/14 at 11:59 am to bencoleman
quote:
I think they are the most blatant. everybody knows that emails aren't stored on a computers hard drive. You can access your email account from any computer. The fact that they use this excuse knowing that everyone knows it is bullshite shows that they don't care what anyone thinks and they think that they are untouchable.
Yeah, I know enough about my company's email system to know that losing even one email is almost impossible, nevertheless thousands or millions of them.
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:02 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
....want to be embarrassed?
.....are freakin serious???.....you support this abortion of an administration and I'm the one who is supposed to be embarrassed??? Sorry Charlie ....just like the GW argument you all support....the science has settled it....the argument is over. This is the most incompetent and embarrassing administration EVER!!!! CASE CLOSED.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:03 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Wow to all of the pardons! If just one person in the Obama administration was found guilty of something or received a blanket pardon this board would be talking about it for years.
Vegas Bengal
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:07 pm to Vegas Bengal
To be fair, the 130 number includes accusations. I'll stick to more concrete charges.
Number of Reagan administration era convictions in the Iran-contra scandal: 14 (two overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted for illegal lobbying: 2 (Michael Deaver; Lyn Nofziger, overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted in Housing and Urban Development scandal: 16.
Total number Reagan era convictions: 32 (the number cited in the strip -- 29 -- arrived at by subtracting the 3 overturned cases).
In addition, Bush [Reagan's vice-president who later became president] pardoned Reagan's Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, indicted on 5 charges.
By my count there have been 0 convictions in the Obama administration.
Class dismissed.
Number of Reagan administration era convictions in the Iran-contra scandal: 14 (two overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted for illegal lobbying: 2 (Michael Deaver; Lyn Nofziger, overturned on appeal).
Number of Reagan officials convicted in Housing and Urban Development scandal: 16.
Total number Reagan era convictions: 32 (the number cited in the strip -- 29 -- arrived at by subtracting the 3 overturned cases).
In addition, Bush [Reagan's vice-president who later became president] pardoned Reagan's Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, indicted on 5 charges.
By my count there have been 0 convictions in the Obama administration.
Class dismissed.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:07 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
Vegas Bengal
...mention someone prosecuted from the Obama administration.....prosecuted by whom.....Eric Holder??? Now you are really being funny. Really, just listen to yourself.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:10 pm to mmcgrath
Exactly. And Reagan ignored laws. And 180 American soldiers lost their lives in Lebanon because of woefully inadequate security allowed a truck bomb, and the Reagan administration lied and covered up then invaded Grenada.
If that shite happened today, their heads would explode faster than if "the mountain" squeezed it.
If that shite happened today, their heads would explode faster than if "the mountain" squeezed it.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:14 pm to Jim Ignatowski
quote:You took the bet. Will you admit defeat?
Jim Ignatowski
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:14 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:Love the GoT ref.
If that shite happened today, their heads would explode faster than if "the mountain" squeezed it.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:15 pm to Jim Ignatowski
So no one. Thank you.
Let me let you in on a little secret... You can be convicted in state court as well.
And then there those like Joseph F. Fernandez, CIA station chief, indicted on four counts of obstruction and false statements; case dismissed when Attorney General Richard L. Thornburgh refused to declassify information needed for his defense.
So so so many more. His press secretary? Jailed.
Want more?
Let me let you in on a little secret... You can be convicted in state court as well.
And then there those like Joseph F. Fernandez, CIA station chief, indicted on four counts of obstruction and false statements; case dismissed when Attorney General Richard L. Thornburgh refused to declassify information needed for his defense.
So so so many more. His press secretary? Jailed.
Want more?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:17 pm to Vegas Bengal
Well this is going swimmingly.
I can't wait for the rest of the PoliBoard to get here.
I can't wait for the rest of the PoliBoard to get here.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:18 pm to Vegas Bengal
....Vegas Bengal....please keep your head buried in the sand....please keep ignoring what's happening in plain view....
......I love it when people get blinded by ideology. They cease to be able to see what's really going on around them and are usually the first to cry when their little utopian world crumbles around them. So please ....keep drinking the koolaid.
......I love it when people get blinded by ideology. They cease to be able to see what's really going on around them and are usually the first to cry when their little utopian world crumbles around them. So please ....keep drinking the koolaid.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:20 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Sounds like your mind is already made up
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:21 pm to Vegas Bengal
quote:
Okey dokey:
Great work. Know the difference between those administrations and this administration?
A media that was attempting to get to the truth.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:25 pm to Wolfhound45
.....no one from this administration will ever be convicted....
.....there is no political will to do so. Politicians AND the press no longer care about right and wrong. They are too concerned with being politically correct or being branded racist. This country is fricked and we've done to ourselves.
.....there is no political will to do so. Politicians AND the press no longer care about right and wrong. They are too concerned with being politically correct or being branded racist. This country is fricked and we've done to ourselves.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:26 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:I would bet that very few of the convictions mentioned above had anything to do with media reporting. What is the job of Congress? They have a ton of power to investigate.
Great work. Know the difference between those administrations and this administration?
A media that was attempting to get to the truth
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:29 pm to Vegas Bengal
Why don't you cite your sources for your cut/pastes? Let people read the entire article and don't pass it off as your own work.
Daily KOS
In addition to a complicit press, having an AG who is not interested in pursuing these things is helping to keep this administration's numbers low.
Daily KOS
In addition to a complicit press, having an AG who is not interested in pursuing these things is helping to keep this administration's numbers low.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:34 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
What is the job of Congress? They have a ton of power to investigate.
They surely do. And their efforts keep getting passed off as phony scandals.
Curious. How about DOJ? Think they might be able to do some investigating?
The media?
End of story.
ETA: The sad thing is, all of those institutions have a responsibility to ensure the power of the Presidency is kept in check. For two years, none of them did. For the past four years, only one of them (weakly) has.
And this is celebrated as a victory.
This post was edited on 6/21/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:38 pm to BobABooey
quote:
Daily KOS
Busted.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:52 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:Because they are phony scandals?
They surely do. And their efforts keep getting passed off as phony scandals.
The only one with any teeth appears to be the IRS scandal, so I will echo some other people on the Poli Board as to wondering why they don't subpoena the e-mails and contracts (and text messages and phone records) of everyone in IT responsible for e-mails being backed up and secured... why? If there really is a law that was broken I would be the first to get on board. I've been involved in or supported more than my share of legal cases against corrupt Dem's on the local level.
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