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Is this part of the wussification of boys?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:18 pm
This weekend I watched 4 games in the Little League World series. Players are 11-12-13 years old. All of the games were U.S. Did not watch and foreign games.
I was amazed at the number of crying episodes. Pitcher throws a ball ...he cries. Batter strikes out...he cries.
I played LL, coached LL back in the day. Never saw a player cry unless he got hit with a pitch or lost a tooth on a bad hop. Crying was for physical pain..not emotional disappointment.
My son played LL for 4 years. Never saw a player cry. I did see 7 and 8 year old tee ball players cry. But never at the age over 11.
For you younger posters who attend youth games...is this fairly common now?
I was amazed at the number of crying episodes. Pitcher throws a ball ...he cries. Batter strikes out...he cries.
I played LL, coached LL back in the day. Never saw a player cry unless he got hit with a pitch or lost a tooth on a bad hop. Crying was for physical pain..not emotional disappointment.
My son played LL for 4 years. Never saw a player cry. I did see 7 and 8 year old tee ball players cry. But never at the age over 11.
For you younger posters who attend youth games...is this fairly common now?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:20 pm to Zach
I don't know any kids who are doing this right now, but I think this is common. Don't suppress tears you are a gay bigot if you do, its fine for boys to cry this mainly stuff is overrated a boy crus its ok.
before toddy yells at me. My simple point is that the political correctness of this society causes us to not challenge boys to be men anymore. There is an overemphasis on emotions and not enough of an emphasis on being a man.
before toddy yells at me. My simple point is that the political correctness of this society causes us to not challenge boys to be men anymore. There is an overemphasis on emotions and not enough of an emphasis on being a man.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:21 pm to Zach
I coached LL about 20 yrs ago and crying was on the upswing. The kids are not taught this important lesson - "there's no crying in baseball."
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:22 pm to Zach
This is not an excuse, but i can imagine the idea that you just messed up in front of millions of people can be hard for a 12 year old to take
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:22 pm to Wtodd
quote:
"there's no crying in baseball."
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:24 pm to Zach
I don't really think crying has anything to do with how tough you are. I remember many times seeing a playground fight where the winner of the fight, after a decisive victory, cried during and after the fight. I think crying is a superficial release of emotion and has no inherent link to one's ability to persevere.
If I strike out in a big game and I have to walk to the dugout with the feeling that I let my teammates down after all the work we've put in together, I could cry. I never did, though, because everybody in the park already knew that I was going to strike out.
If I strike out in a big game and I have to walk to the dugout with the feeling that I let my teammates down after all the work we've put in together, I could cry. I never did, though, because everybody in the park already knew that I was going to strike out.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:25 pm to catholictigerfan
quote:Every single person says exactly this.
Don't suppress tears you are a gay bigot if you do
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:25 pm to Zach
quote:
This weekend I watched 4 games in the Little League World series. Players are 11-12-13 years old. All of the games were U.S. Did not watch and foreign games.
I was amazed at the number of crying episodes. Pitcher throws a ball ...he cries. Batter strikes out...he cries.
I played LL, coached LL back in the day. Never saw a player cry unless he got hit with a pitch or lost a tooth on a bad hop. Crying was for physical pain..not emotional disappointment.
My son played LL for 4 years. Never saw a player cry. I did see 7 and 8 year old tee ball players cry. But never at the age over 11.
For you younger posters who attend youth games...is this fairly common now?
My older brother was much more serious about sports growing up than I was, and it wasn't uncommon for him to throw a little fit any time he fricked up. Around the time he turned 8 or 9, the old man took him behind the bleachers and put an end to it once and for all.
Don't blame commericials, movies, Harvard, or the government if you're raising a pussy. Look to yourself and your wife.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:26 pm to ballscaster
quote:
I remember many times seeing a playground fight where the winner of the fight, after a decisive victory, cried during and after the fight.
Where the hell did you grow up?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:26 pm to fleaux
quote:
This is not an excuse, but i can imagine the idea that you just messed up in front of millions of people can be hard for a 12 year old to take
I'm going to say this is a big part of it.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:28 pm to Navytiger74
quote:This works for just about anything.
Don't blame commericials, movies, Harvard, or the government if you're raising a pussy. Look to yourself and your wife.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:29 pm to Navytiger74
quote:
Don't blame commericials, movies, Harvard, or the government if you're raising a pussy. Look to yourself and your wife.
troof.
i have a niece who is 12, she will cry for 4 hours.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:31 pm to Zach
It is common. The problem stems from the parents. I can vividly remember being told to "suck it up" by coaches and parents (even my mom)when things went wrong. Now you've got a group of parents who tell their kids that they are the best ones on the team and that the coaches and other players are idiots. When things go wrong (and they will when you're playing other very good ballplayers) mommy's and daddy's little "all american" doesn't suck it up, but instead blames everybody else for his poor play. It is sad to see.
However, there are also good moments. In the five minutes of a game I watched last night I saw a kid from Chicago hit a monster HR. As he was coming home he did a bit of a showboating gesture. It wasn't necessarily to show up the other team, but to celebrate with his own teammates. Nevertheless, between innings his coach made him go to the other team's coach and apologize for his actions. I likely won't watch too much of the tournament, nor do I care who wins, but there is no doubt that the Chicago team is coached by some very respectable adults.
However, there are also good moments. In the five minutes of a game I watched last night I saw a kid from Chicago hit a monster HR. As he was coming home he did a bit of a showboating gesture. It wasn't necessarily to show up the other team, but to celebrate with his own teammates. Nevertheless, between innings his coach made him go to the other team's coach and apologize for his actions. I likely won't watch too much of the tournament, nor do I care who wins, but there is no doubt that the Chicago team is coached by some very respectable adults.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:33 pm to GhostofJackson
quote:A place where everybody plays state championship level football, goes to church, owns guns, hunts, fishes, votes Republican, and lives the life of a typical sidewalk LSU fan.
Where the hell did you grow up?
Look, none of us ever struck out on espn when we were 12. I remember crying when I was 9 and we lost the title game in basketball, and I was mostly crying because my mom was taping the game and my shitty performance would live on into eternity.
Hey Zach, these kids could kick your arse in baseball because they're tougher than you.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:34 pm to ballscaster
when I tied our school record for the 220(In my day we ran miles in halves, quarters, eighths and such) I had to lobby just to get my name added to the record plate as a co-holder.
Now if you don't get a participation ribbon for tee ball it's an outrage!
Yes the pussification comes from the parents, not the children.
Now if you don't get a participation ribbon for tee ball it's an outrage!
Yes the pussification comes from the parents, not the children.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:34 pm to Zach
quote:
I was amazed at the number of crying episodes.
Don't even get me started about LL.
I hate the rule that if one team gets ten runs ahead they end the game so the boys on the losing team won't be humiliated.
What ever happened to teaching the boys that "It ain't over until the last out"?
I also hate that every player has to play at least two innings.
What ever happened to telling the boys to practice more so that you can become good enough to play in the game?
And I hate the rule that a pitcher has to be taken out of the game after 85 pitches.
Not to mention letting girls on the team.
That little black girl wouldn't have struck me out.
I played every inning of every game when I was 12 and didn't strike out once.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:35 pm to Alt26
quote:Were they wrong? These kids were selected to be on their LLWS team.
Now you've got a group of parents who tell their kids that they are the best ones on the team
Shout out to all the homies picking on kids for crying when they're better at baseball than you are at anything.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:36 pm to Zach
quote:
This weekend I watched 4 games in the Little League World series.
I'd cry too if I had to sit through 4 baseball games.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:36 pm to DawgfaninCa
quote:Here they come, poking their chest out as usual. We're very impressed by how tough you are.
DawgfaninCa
Posted on 8/19/14 at 1:39 pm to Zach
LLWS is a higher level. We see crying at the highschool, college and professional level when people fail at accomplishing their goal when they are very close.
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