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Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:34 pm to Lsut81
quote:The city has got to pay the bills somehow.
I have never seen more Seat belt/inspection checkpoint than BR
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:41 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Stick to driving on paved surfaces for the rest of your life. Coon asses and necks know the hunting and fishing spots are not on pristine highways.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:43 pm to Tactical1
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I don't think it matters how many degrees you have when a drunk driver smashes in to you.
You are totally missing the point. It's a risk I am willing to take. So is smoking. So is being obese. Why should it be against the law?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:45 pm to Zach
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You are totally missing the point. It's a risk I am willing to take. So is smoking. So is being obese. Why should it be against the law?
I don't see how bringing up your degrees and driving record is a case for or against this.
Should it be against the law? I suppose not, although it would be extremely dense to take to the streets not wearing a seat belt just because you can.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:49 pm to Tactical1
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I don't see how bringing up your degrees and driving record is a case for or against this.
Uh, you didn't read the whole thread. I was responding to the point that anyone against SB laws must be stupid. Scroll up to understand the context.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:55 pm to Zach
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I was responding to the point that anyone against SB laws must be stupid.
Have to correct you Zach, but he actually said
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The issue is there anybody in 2014 so stupid not to wear seat belts?
Minor difference, but I know why you claimed the degrees
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:59 pm to Lsut81
Don't laugh This is how TD discussions are supposed to go back and forth. and yes I love fried foods speaking of risk. i walk in Manhattan every day that's risk
Posted on 5/19/14 at 12:59 pm to Lsut81
Serious question, if seat belt laws are mandatory how are motorcycles even allowed on public roads. Haven't some/most states done away with helmet laws also?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:01 pm to dante
I can't imagine with a state would not have a helmet law in 2014. Just as I can't see how a state cannot ban texting while driving, cell phone usage while driving or more amazing to me, no smoking in restaurants.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:02 pm to dante
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Serious question, if seat belt laws are mandatory how are motorcycles even allowed on public roads.
That is why I made my first comments in a joking manner...
If it is truly for the safety of the driver, then Bicyclists and motorcyclists shouldn't be allowed on the roads at all.
Its all about control and its a fricking joke.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:03 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
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Don't laugh This is how TD discussions are supposed to go back and forth.
It should, but then you have someone from the extreme right or left throw out something that is so asinine and untruthful that it derails everything and turns it into a shouting match.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:05 pm to Lsut81
and the ravings of the paranoids that see a conspiracy in everything
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:34 pm to oldcharlie8
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not wearing a seatbelt doesn't affect any other motorists but yourself.
That is not necessarily true. It's pretty easy to get thrown around the inside of a vehicle if your not strapped in. A glancing blow off of a guardrail or another vehicle is a good example. If your strapped in, you can still bring the vehicle to a stop. If you're not strapped in, your vehicle can continue on uncontrolled, possibly crossing a yellow line or unnecessarily plowing into whatever.
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:47 pm to PVnRT
So you are implying that seat belts are mandatory, not to protect those in the vehicle, but to protect those outside of the vehicle?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:57 pm to dante
I was replying to the notion that the only person who could possibly be injured by the failure to wear a seatbelt is the driver themself. I made no other declaration.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:58 pm to PVnRT
It can only help all people inside and outside? I can fathom anybody not wearing a seat belt. Why wouldn't you? Arrogance?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 1:59 pm to oldcharlie8
I am against most anything that infringes upon personal freedom...but this is not one of them.
First, driving a vehicle on a publicly owned roadway is not a right or a liberty granted to you by the constitution. It is a privilege earned and licensed. It can be revoked. When you agree to the terms of this privilege, you agree to the rules regulating the act of operating a vehicle on public roadways.
No liberties are infringed on by seatbelt laws. In fact, many innocent lives are saved by requiring that children of ignorant parents be safely restrained as those children would most likely not be buckled in without threat of monetary penalty.
If one wishes to drive without a seatbelt buckled, they have the option of going to Bubba's farm and driving along dirt roads to their hearts delight...if Bubba so allows. Or buy a large tract of private property themselves.
First, driving a vehicle on a publicly owned roadway is not a right or a liberty granted to you by the constitution. It is a privilege earned and licensed. It can be revoked. When you agree to the terms of this privilege, you agree to the rules regulating the act of operating a vehicle on public roadways.
No liberties are infringed on by seatbelt laws. In fact, many innocent lives are saved by requiring that children of ignorant parents be safely restrained as those children would most likely not be buckled in without threat of monetary penalty.
If one wishes to drive without a seatbelt buckled, they have the option of going to Bubba's farm and driving along dirt roads to their hearts delight...if Bubba so allows. Or buy a large tract of private property themselves.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:00 pm to oldcharlie8
Do you honestly think the trial lawyers would let this pass, not being able to collect damages from an insurance company for this reason? Never happen, so forget it. Check the stats out: no seat belt, no motor cycle helmet, your chances of being critically injured jump through the roof.
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