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re: is there a more communistic law than the "seat belt" law?
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:14 am to oldcharlie8
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:14 am to oldcharlie8
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It should be a no-pay, no-play deal, like with insurance. You don't have to wear a seatbelt, but you shouldn't get to recover insurance proceeds or sue the other party if you are injured as a result.
In addition, if no-seat-belt person is in an accident, anyone who walks up or shows up on the scene (police, paramedics, whomever) should be able to say, "oh, forget him, not a priority at all, no seat belt worn" ... and there should be zero consequences.
It does seem rather silly to me that there are states in which motorcycle riders do not have to wear helmets ... yet, there is a seat belt law.
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:18 am to navy
truth is..i don't think that a law should take away you're right to choose. unfortunately, most laws do. however, just about every law that is passed is essentially telling you what you can and can't do. seems like our fore fathers would spin in their graves to see the "freedoms" taken away one at a time.
it's kinda like when someone bitches about their neighbor losing everything to gambling and then the community votes "no more gambling". holy shite......just worry about yourself unless their decision to gamble affects you.
it's kinda like when someone bitches about their neighbor losing everything to gambling and then the community votes "no more gambling". holy shite......just worry about yourself unless their decision to gamble affects you.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:24 am to oldcharlie8
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just worry about yourself unless their decision to gamble affects you.
In a sense, another driver's choice to not wear a seatbelt could drive up insurance premiums for others. I guess that's the old timey definition of insurance though.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:34 am to son of arlo
What happens when a no seat belt wearer doesn't have health insurance and is seriously injured...or has Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare?
They get treated at the tax payers expense, go on SSDI, etc.
They get treated at the tax payers expense, go on SSDI, etc.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:36 am to Fun Bunch
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What happens when a no seat belt wearer doesn't have health insurance and is seriously injured...or has Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare?
once again...there should be stipulations in place for you not wearing the belt.
this way, you know the severity of the consequences before you decide. at least you still can decide.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to oldcharlie8
The law begins and ends with the insurance industry's lobbying efforts.
You should always wear a seatbelt regardless.
You should always wear a seatbelt regardless.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:38 am to Fun Bunch
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They get treated at the tax payers expense, go on SSDI, etc.
Eureka! We need a Afordable Driver's Insurance Act. For much too long, we'd had millions of illegal aliens who have done without auto insurance because they couldn't afford it!
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:39 am to Fun Bunch
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What happens when a no seat belt wearer doesn't have health insurance and is seriously injured...or has Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare?
What happens if someone is riding a bicycle on the sidewalk without a helmet and they fall off and crack their skull??? Should all bike riders be required to wear a helmet?
You can play the "What if" game all fricking day long. The crux of the matter is does not wearing a seatbelt put anyone but the driver in harms way? And the answer is no.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:40 am to oldcharlie8
It lowers insurance rates
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:43 am to oldcharlie8
My chances of living go up exponentially with it on than with it off.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:46 am to a want
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It lowers insurance rates
just think if there was a law stating this:
if you don't wear a seatbelt, here are the consequences of you perish in an accident:
1- you can't collect life insurance
2- you are not allowed to file suit of any kind against any other motorists because you didn't have one on
you see.....you still have a choice. and, in this case, insurance rates shouldn't go up.
instead, they take away your choice and ticket you instead. that's communism
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:51 am to a want
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It lowers insurance rates
Let's get serious about it then. Every auto should have a roll cage, air bags, 4 point harness with a HANS device, and every one in the car should wear a helmet.
Let's put seat belts in school buses and subway trains.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:52 am to oldcharlie8
Not all auto accidents result in death. People (maybe they just broke their arm/rib) without their seat belt on would say they took it off to get out of the car after the wreck. Also, some would simply put their seat belt on after the wreck.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:53 am to son of arlo
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Every auto should have a roll cage, air bags, 4 point harness with a HANS device, and every one in the car should wear a helmet
I don't believe those have shown to be as effective or as cost effective as a seat belt.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:54 am to SG_Geaux
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Because when you get maimed for not wearing a seat belt, my money has to take care of your sorry arse.
And when you get fat and have a heart attack, my money has to take care of your sorry arse. Therefore, we should ticket fat people.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:55 am to a want
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It lowers insurance rates
So will ticketing fat people. When there are no more fat people medical insurance rates will be lower.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:55 am to Zach
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Therefore, we should ticket fat people
We should incentive them.
One of the many problems with ACA - absolutely NO incentive to anyone for healthy behavior.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 9:58 am to PrimeTime Money
I always wear one but it's a ridiculous law..
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:00 am to a want
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We should incentive them.
And we should incentive drivers. Not ticket them.
Posted on 5/19/14 at 10:00 am to a want
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I don't believe those have shown to be as effective
Er, those things I listed would be much more effective than just a seat belt.
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