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Is it possible to have a good dictatorship
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:20 pm
Throughout history, there have always been cruel and domineering leaders. However, us it possible to have a dictator chosen by the public. Someone who is a good person that will spread his ideals to his family. They in turn will be good leaders until the family line dies out.
I think it was Socrates who originally thought of the concept of a morally good dictator (link posted later).
This is just a thought, but what if some leaders had use there power for the greater good. To invest in greater knowledge instead of war. To create a society based upon economic stability and satisfying life for citizens instead of destitution.
As an outline :
1. Create a powerful country by whatever means.
2. Find someone who is mostly legitimately good at heart.This obviously is the tricky part, sonce they can not have any predisposed political ties. Ideally this should be a mentorship in enlightenment.
3. Teach that person to the politics of how to rule, coronate them, and live off a fraction of the riches you made while ruling.
I think it was Socrates who originally thought of the concept of a morally good dictator (link posted later).
This is just a thought, but what if some leaders had use there power for the greater good. To invest in greater knowledge instead of war. To create a society based upon economic stability and satisfying life for citizens instead of destitution.
As an outline :
1. Create a powerful country by whatever means.
2. Find someone who is mostly legitimately good at heart.This obviously is the tricky part, sonce they can not have any predisposed political ties. Ideally this should be a mentorship in enlightenment.
3. Teach that person to the politics of how to rule, coronate them, and live off a fraction of the riches you made while ruling.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 3:28 pm
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:20 pm to volod
Anything is possible.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:21 pm to volod
Do you even The Republic
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:21 pm to volod
Caesar wasnt so bad
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:22 pm to Cosmo
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Caesar wasnt so bad
History is filled with great autocrats. A benevolent dictatorship is by far the best possible form of government, but it is also the least assurable.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:24 pm to volod
I would be a good dictator. I don't trust any of you others with that much power, though.
Thus the conundrum. Plato was all over this question, thousands of years ago.
Thus the conundrum. Plato was all over this question, thousands of years ago.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:26 pm to volod
A good dictator is just as likely as someone who is evil getting elected by popular vote. Dictatorship doesn't necessitate one being "bad", the issue is the lack of control by the people.
There were many great kings who were loved by their people and brought about prosperity for their people. The problem was when the spoiled son inherits the throne and the people have no recourse.
There were many great kings who were loved by their people and brought about prosperity for their people. The problem was when the spoiled son inherits the throne and the people have no recourse.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:27 pm to skidry
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There were many great kings who were loved by their people and brought about prosperity for their people. The problem was when the spoiled son inherits the throne and the people have no recourse.
Irish and Scottish Tanists had the right of it.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:27 pm to HempHead
The limiting factor is what they must do to keep power.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:29 pm to HempHead
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by far the best possible form of government, but it is also the least assurable.
Yes, succession is the problem. You might get one good one for every 5-7 bad ones.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:29 pm to volod
I had good friends from Nicaragua in the early 2000s, and they would all have traded their country's time under the Sandinistas to go back under the Somoza family's rule. Now the Sandinistas are taking back over by making constitutional amendments every few years and faking Democracy. I actually have a Nicaraguan flag signed by one of the former Presidents, who also happened to be my college roommate's uncle, from when I once visited the country. The poverty they suffer there is absolutely nowhere to be found in our country.
They are basically serving under a different dictator under the guise of a "democratically" elected President.
They are basically serving under a different dictator under the guise of a "democratically" elected President.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:30 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Yeah the means of attaining the power itself in a Dictatorship seems to enable conflict, whether because of distrust and concern or others trying usurp the leader, especially if he's the Mad King.
I would be a good dictator. I don't trust any of you others with that much power, though.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:30 pm to volod
No.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:31 pm to Cosmo
No
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:31 pm to Cosmo
caesar was more of a socialist than people bitch about obama being
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:32 pm to volod
Of course. Enlightened absolutism and benevolent dictatorship have been discussed as viable if not ideal forms of government for years. The problem is that so few men could successfully wield autocratic power benevolently that it's not worth it to consider it as a perpetual solution.
Trump, for one, certainly doesn't fit the bill. So I hope that's not where this was going.
Trump, for one, certainly doesn't fit the bill. So I hope that's not where this was going.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:32 pm to jackmanusc
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caesar was more of a socialist than people bitch about obama being
He definitely organized the non-existent means of industrial production into the hands of plebians and non-Romans.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:35 pm to FreddieMac
quote:There are examples of benevolent dictators who were very popular overall. But I guess that would also mean they could attain that power through a democratic process as well, unlike somebody like Kim Jong Un.
No
That said, power is too corrupting and often too fragile (others vying for it) for a Benevolent Dictatorship to be anything but the exception.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:36 pm to volod
Singapore seems to have it down pretty good.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 3:36 pm to volod
Jessie and Al have fared pretty good being dictators.
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