- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Is it clear to Trumpkins that Trump has wasted his political clout and is empty handed
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:21 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:21 am
He is empty handed in dealing with Congress now.
No one is scared of him. He has wasted huge amounts of political capital by simply running his mouth when he should have been quiet.
It is unfortunate because he has some good ideas. Now he is just going to sign whatever Congress ever sends him and remain President to save his ego.
No one is scared of him. He has wasted huge amounts of political capital by simply running his mouth when he should have been quiet.
It is unfortunate because he has some good ideas. Now he is just going to sign whatever Congress ever sends him and remain President to save his ego.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:30 am
36
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:23 am to I B Freeman
quote:
He is empty handed in dealing with Congress now???
No one is scared of him. He has wasted huge amounts of political capital by simply running his mouth when he should have been quiet.
It is unfortunate because he has some good ideas. Now he is just going to sign whatever Congress ever sends him and remain President to save his ego.
Dude what political clout? Literally since day 1 they tried to make him illegitimate with the Russia narrative. The Republicans have never had ANY intention of undoing Obamacare.
The only strategic mistake he has made is not pushing tax reform first. Thats it.
Now his best bet is to triangulate and start running against Congress in general....both parties. It's likely that the Admin agree given his recent moves.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:23 am to I B Freeman
quote:
It is unfortunate because he has some good ideas. Now he is just going to sign whatever Congress ever sends him and remain President to save his ego.
I agree with your general thesis, but this is unlikely. Trump would rather go down as a martyr (without a cause).
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:23 am to I B Freeman
Let me help your thread.
Congress won't help Trump. That is clear. What a waste of time this next 3 years will be.
Congress won't help Trump. That is clear. What a waste of time this next 3 years will be.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:25 am to I B Freeman
His political clout was always with the people, not Congress or the establishment.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:26 am to I B Freeman
Or he could cut a deal with McConnell and Ryan.
Your anger is pointed in the wrong direction my friend. You are beating the cat because the dog shite in the floor.
Your anger is pointed in the wrong direction my friend. You are beating the cat because the dog shite in the floor.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:28 am to I B Freeman
No
The congress thinks a majority of republicans are going to support their sorry do nothing asses over him?
Hahaha
The congress thinks a majority of republicans are going to support their sorry do nothing asses over him?
Hahaha
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:29 am to I B Freeman
Let's take Charlottesville out of the equation.
I think the outrage of the day strategy worked in the campaign because it kept the focus on him and he sucked up all of the oxygen. Now that he has to legislate, he has to know when to hold his punches. I think he's wasted some credibility/political capital/etc. getting into fights on Twitter. For instance, what did he have to gain going after Mika? I don't care if he was 100% in the right. I know that his appeal is that he's a brawler, but sometimes you can't try to engage everyone in the room because you will end up spending all your goodwill on stuff that isn't worth it.
I think the outrage of the day strategy worked in the campaign because it kept the focus on him and he sucked up all of the oxygen. Now that he has to legislate, he has to know when to hold his punches. I think he's wasted some credibility/political capital/etc. getting into fights on Twitter. For instance, what did he have to gain going after Mika? I don't care if he was 100% in the right. I know that his appeal is that he's a brawler, but sometimes you can't try to engage everyone in the room because you will end up spending all your goodwill on stuff that isn't worth it.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:31 am to I B Freeman
I'm not a Trumpkin.
He is a very, very unskilled politician asshat.
I prefer that WAAAAYYY more than the SKILLED politician asshats we normally get.
And, given the choices were this dude or HRC........I am over-the-moon happy to have Trump over that despicable pile of unprincipled dog shite.
Give me a Gov that gets very little "done" and isn't simply going wherever the wind takes it and I'll be good.
He is a very, very unskilled politician asshat.
I prefer that WAAAAYYY more than the SKILLED politician asshats we normally get.
And, given the choices were this dude or HRC........I am over-the-moon happy to have Trump over that despicable pile of unprincipled dog shite.
Give me a Gov that gets very little "done" and isn't simply going wherever the wind takes it and I'll be good.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:33 am to I B Freeman
He's never had political clout. Since day 1 he's had to fight the Democrats and media make him out to be worse than Hitler or Kim Jong Un, plus having to fight the "Never Trump" Republicans led by McCain and Graham.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:34 am to I B Freeman
You make it seem like it's the will of Trump vs. the will of Congress. What it should be is the will of the people expressed by the President and Congress and they should work together to accomplish what the people elected them to accomplish.
If Congress is defying the will of the people in order to win a pissing match, they will (or should) feel it when they are up for re-election. They weren't elected to fight the President but to legislate the will of the people.
If Congress is defying the will of the people in order to win a pissing match, they will (or should) feel it when they are up for re-election. They weren't elected to fight the President but to legislate the will of the people.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:34 am to Brosef Stalin
quote:
His political clout was always with the people, not Congress or the establishment.
And he never used it and now he has lost a lot of it.
Reagan could make the people pressure Congress. They feared him. The very last thing as a Congressman in either party you wanted was Reagan campaigning for your opponent.
There are still strong supporters out there beyond TD but nothing like there used to be. Even his strongest supporters know his tendencies to spout off and not deliver.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:34 am to I B Freeman
Is it clear to you that in 2 weeks time this will be no different than Muh Russians and Muh Nukes?
You'll have to push some other distracting false narrative.
You'll have to push some other distracting false narrative.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:35 am to I B Freeman
He is working against the whole system.
Thanks to GumboPot for posting this yesterday.
quote:
Billionaires, tech CEOs and top members of the Republican establishment flew to a private island resort off the coast of Georgia this weekend for the American Enterprise Institute’s annual World Forum, according to sources familiar with the secretive gathering.
The main topic at the closed-to-the-press confab? How to stop Republican front-runner Donald Trump. (The meeting was not planned to be a strategy session on how to stop the GOP front-runner, but rather evolved into one, as a subsequently obtained agenda makes clear.)
Apple CEO Tim Cook, Google co-founder Larry Page, Napster creator and Facebook investor Sean Parker, and Tesla Motors and SpaceX honcho Elon Musk all attended. So did Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), political guru Karl Rove, House Speaker Paul Ryan, GOP Sens. Tom Cotton (Ark.), Cory Gardner (Colo.), Tim Scott (S.C.), Rob Portman (Ohio) and Ben Sasse (Neb.), who recently made news by saying he “cannot support Donald Trump.”
Along with Ryan, the House was represented by Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Fred Upton (Mich.), Rep. Kevin Brady (Texas) and almost-Speaker Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), sources said, along with leadership figure Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price (R-Ga.), Financial Services Committee Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) and Diane Black (Tenn.).
Philip Anschutz, the billionaire GOP donor whose company owns a stake in Sea Island, was also there, along with Democratic Rep. John Delaney, who represents Maryland. Arthur Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, was there, too, a Times spokeswoman confirmed.
“A specter was haunting the World Forum—the specter of Donald Trump,” Kristol wrote in an emailed report from the conference, borrowing the opening lines of the Communist Manifesto. “There was much unhappiness about his emergence, a good deal of talk, some of it insightful and thoughtful, about why he’s done so well, and many expressions of hope that he would be defeated.”
Thanks to GumboPot for posting this yesterday.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:39 am to MrLarson
All of that is true.
What is also true is that he has no plan. He has no way to make the system change as he promised.
His biggest tool remaining as I pointed out yesterday is a negotiated resignation. We get the big changes, he gets the ego boost and Congress gets a traditional republican as President.
It is far fetched I know BUT it is a plan and a better plan than Trump has or any of you have.
What is also true is that he has no plan. He has no way to make the system change as he promised.
His biggest tool remaining as I pointed out yesterday is a negotiated resignation. We get the big changes, he gets the ego boost and Congress gets a traditional republican as President.
It is far fetched I know BUT it is a plan and a better plan than Trump has or any of you have.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:41 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:
BlackHelicopterPilot
This. Everything you said x 1000
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:44 am to I B Freeman
He never had any from the start in DC. He's an outsider to them. This is why it's been so hard for him to get through legislation like ACA.
1) Insulted intelligence community before taking office
2) Drain swamp campaign by instilling term limits (means the free gravy train is over for congress and house)
3) And yes, running his mouth at times has hampered progress.
The entire gov't, entertainment industry, silicon valley, and psycho lefties, MSM are fighting him....he's not gulity of anything, but he's being painted as a bad guy.
1) Insulted intelligence community before taking office
2) Drain swamp campaign by instilling term limits (means the free gravy train is over for congress and house)
3) And yes, running his mouth at times has hampered progress.
The entire gov't, entertainment industry, silicon valley, and psycho lefties, MSM are fighting him....he's not gulity of anything, but he's being painted as a bad guy.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:45 am to I B Freeman
quote:
His biggest tool remaining as I pointed out yesterday is a negotiated resignation. We get the big changes, he gets the ego boost and Congress gets a traditional republican as President.
So frick the will of the people? The system remains the same and you consider this a win?
quote:
It is far fetched I know BUT it is a plan and a better plan than Trump has or any of you have.
Have you pitched this to the WH or Congress?
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:45 am to I B Freeman
Trump has a rally scheduled for next Tuesday in Phoenix. That should give an indication of how much clout he still has.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 10:45 am to I B Freeman
quote:
his political clout
Page 1 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News