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re: Is anyone else laughing about this "red line" media creation?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:06 pm to Salmon
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:06 pm to Salmon
quote:
this seems like a pretty weak argument
classic sfp
but he just panders for views on his potential podcast/political run
he doesnt really believe threads like this, he is a panderer
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Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is in a completely different league than Syria. This has fricking nukes at stake.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:07 pm to rocket31
quote:
but he just panders for views on his potential podcast/political run
he doesnt really believe threads like this, he is a panderer
no i made this thread to get liberals to admit the major media has a partisan bias they won't admit
it worked
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
no i made this thread to get liberals to admit the major media has a partisan bias they won't admit
when have i ever denied than CNN has a partisan bias?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the major media has a partisan bias they won't admit
CNN is biased?
man lands on the moon
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
when have i ever denied than CNN has a partisan bias?
getting a want (who appears to be a lost cause) to admit it was a much bigger victory
i've never called you a lost cause
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
Slow.. Just post Trump's quote. And then tell us how it's not a red line.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Funniest part about this is that in one case you have a threat to the US by a nation directly (North Korea) to which Trump responded.
In the other case, you had no threat directly or in any way to the US, and Obama decided to draw a red line.
That is the sad part. Obama wasn't doing anything to protect the US from a direct threat. In fact, he made the threat to the US worse by his actions.
In the other case, you had no threat directly or in any way to the US, and Obama decided to draw a red line.
That is the sad part. Obama wasn't doing anything to protect the US from a direct threat. In fact, he made the threat to the US worse by his actions.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 3:34 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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he also was pushing for invasion much more than is portrayed. Bobby did a hell of a job making the CMC turd look like a diamond after the fact.
Bobby was the worst advisor during the CMC.
Bobby actually advised using one of our subs to sink one of our OWN ships and then blaming it on the Russians as a "remember the Maine" moment.
All of the Kennedy's have been a blight on this country. The most damaging of all was Teddy. It was too bad some great American didn't step up and kill him 40 years ago too.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
did he use the term "Red line"?
Seriously?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 4:54 pm to TotesMcGotes
yes
the term "red line" is associated pretty much exclusively with Obama
there are tons of synonyms that the media could use. why use the one completely associated with Obama?
the term "red line" is associated pretty much exclusively with Obama
there are tons of synonyms that the media could use. why use the one completely associated with Obama?
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Poor little fella. We should buy him a balloon. Maybe a candy bar. And give him a hug. That'll fix it!
Kim is paranoid, isolated, and scared to death.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
yes
the term "red line" is associated pretty much exclusively with Obama
there are tons of synonyms that the media could use. why use the one completely associated with Obama?
Christ on a cracker, you're still going on about this? Let me attempt an answer. Could it be recent memory of the folly of making questionable ultimatums summed up in a two word term? Obama chose not to back his up. @real can't make good on his, and his line has already been crossed. What now?
I think what I find most amusing about this thread is that @realists frequently respond to criticism by giving some variant of "but Obama/Clinton/whoever did such and such!" I remember calling that out here a couple of weeks ago:
LINK
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:25 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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@real can't make good on his, and his line has already been crossed. What now?
the media proliferated this narrative before giving Trump time to even possibly respond
quote:
I think what I find most amusing about this thread is that @realists frequently respond to criticism by giving some variant of "but Obama/Clinton/whoever did such and such!" I remember calling that out here a couple of weeks ago:
i criticize all politicians on the same scale
if Obama makes the same mistake that Trump does, then i don't hold back. Obama's foreign policy had one major positive (normalizing relations with Cuba) and i attacked Trump for attacking that single FP positive
i did not support Trump's attacks on Syria
i'm not a Trumpkin. the media has become so unhinged and biased that i'm forced to defend him in the name of reality, though
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the media proliferated this narrative before giving Trump time to even possibly respond
As I explained in my first post in this thread, it was a "red line" from the moment he uttered it on TV. Instead of acknowledging that, which should have ended this thread, you went on about "owning your mistake" for thinking it was a tweet. No one thinks it wasn't a red line, and given that its condition was Fatboy making another threat, it was an empty threat, because there was no way it was going to be acted upon. It's something Fatboy would have said, and to be more specific, I'm talking about Kim.
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:38 pm to Spock's Eyebrow
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, you went on about "owning your mistake" for thinking it was a tweet.
the only mistake i've made in this thread
quote:
No one thinks it wasn't a red line, and given that its condition was Fatboy making another threat, it was an empty threat, because there was no way it was going to be acted upon
liberal mind reading
Posted on 8/9/17 at 5:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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the only mistake i've made in this thread
This whole thread is a mistake.
quote:
liberal mind reading
And there's another. All I've done, and what you refuse to do, is literally understand what the man said.
This post was edited on 8/9/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 8/9/17 at 6:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:OK. So a red line changes calculus and equations (wtf?)
We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation.”
But saying that any more threats would bring whatever biblical Truman ripoff the world has never seen blah blah?
I think you're correct in that they aren't alike. One was a vague, strange math metaphor, the other a hyperbolic, over-dramatic yarn.
Changing calculus as opposed to reigning down hell fire and fury the likes of something this planet has never seen before.
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